Only just catching up with this (been walking in Scotland)… Probably not tremendously informative now, but I’m not using Levure, I am using backdrop, and on Ventura.
I’ll check the state of RaiseWindows when I can - would it be expected to change depending on backdrop use? Best Wishes, David Glasgow > On 28 Apr 2023, at 1:30 am, Marty Knapp via use-livecode > <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Bingo - it was “raiseWindows” being set to true. Setting that to false has > resolved the issue. Weird that it works fine on previous macOSes previous to > Ventura. > --- > Marty Knapp > >> On Apr 27, 2023, at 2:35 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode >> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >> Okay that is strange - but the fact it is happening when levure is loaded >> suggests it is some property or mechanism it is adding. >> >> The engine only really has three things (that I can think of) which change >> window stacking order… >> >> The backdrop - which makes the engine *try* to keep all the windows next to >> each other, with the backdrop window immediately behind the bottom one; >> >> The ‘raiseWindows’ global property which is basically the same as the >> backdrop feature - except the backdrop has zero width and height. >> >> The go command which raises a stack to the top (amongst those with same >> mode). >> >> So i’m not sure how a script in levure could cause that effect - unless it’s >> setting ‘the raiseWindows’ to true (thus making the problem you are seeing >> the same as the backdrop issues that others are on Ventura). >> >> Anyway, the fact it requires levure to be loaded for it to happen means we >> can track it down! >> >> Warmest Regards, >> >> Mark. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 27 Apr 2023, at 19:58, Marty Knapp via use-livecode >>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >>> >>> No, not using the backdrop feature. I did try the suggestion on bug 24200 >>> to change the system setting "Group Windows By Application" in the "Desktop >>> and Dock System Setting" preference pane to true. Same behavior, even after >>> a restart. And it is happening in both the IDE and in a standalone. The >>> standalone is built with the Levure framework. In the IDE the issue only >>> happens *after* I’ve loaded the Levure framework. >>> --- >>> Marty Knapp >>> >>>> On Apr 27, 2023, at 9:39 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode >>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2023-04-19 19:25, Marty Knapp via use-livecode wrote: >>>>> Ever since I updated to Ventura on my Mac I've had this weird behavior >>>>> both in the IDE and in two different standalones - if I have more than >>>>> one stack open, when I click on a stack that is behind another stack to >>>>> bring it to the front, it very briefly comes to the front (flashes), then >>>>> goes back behind everything, even windows from other apps. If I click on >>>>> the title bar it does not do this. In the menubar is still indicates that >>>>> I'm in my app. It's not happening with any non-Livecode apps and it's >>>>> occurring on two different Macs. I’m not seeing this behavior on OSes >>>>> previous to Ventura. >>>>> Am I going crazy? >>>> >>>> Do you (or anyone else who has chimed in on this list) have the backdrop >>>> feature enabled? >>>> >>>> The reason I ask is that the behavior you describe is similar to this >>>> report https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=24199 (I think at >>>> least) - which has now reduced to being due to the backdrop - >>>> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=24200. >>>> >>>> Warmest Regards, >>>> >>>> Mark. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ >>>> LiveCode: Build Amazing Things >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> use-livecode mailing list >>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>>> subscription preferences: >>>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
