You hit the nail on the head. Select grouped was not selected so each field / 
label looked independent (and could be independently selected). But in fact 
they were grouped. With select grouped off the fields could not be rearranged. 
Turning it on enabled layering the groups (containing the fields) in the 
correct order. Because its not obvious the fields are grouped I never think to 
check that option (this is not my stack but someone else’s. Probably at some 
point there was a point to grouping them together… maybe during the design 
phase). It’s all working now. And Pauls suggestion of checking the PB was 
useful in “seeing” that each fields label and field was grouped (even without 
the select grouped icon being toggled on). 

Thanks to all.
Mark

> On 28 Jul 2023, at 5:27 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
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> You can toggle what gets selected with the "Select Grouped" icon in the top 
> toolbar.
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> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
> On July 28, 2023 10:53:08 AM Mark Smith via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
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>> Well, this might explain it. The original designer had grouped the labels 
>> and the fields into groups (so label A and field A into grp A, etc). I was 
>> trying to change the order of the fields, (oddly, when you Please visit this 
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