I've had the about the same iOS experience. Annoying, yes. Not so bad after doing it once.
I can't believe what you Mac OS developers go though. The only thing I staple is some pine rope on the fireplace mantle. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -----Original Message----- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Bergendal via use-livecode Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2023 3:25 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Andreas Bergendal Subject: Re: Should I upgrade to Xcode 15.0 or 15.1? It may not be as bad as it looks, as an app can survive several iOS upgrades without needing to be rebuilt. I have an app in AppStore that I think was targeted at iOS 14, and didn’t malfunction until iOS 17 came. I then rebuilt it targeting iOS 16 (as 17 was not yet supported by the LC deployment chain at the time), and it still works like a charm. Since that app had been doing fine for two years, all certificates and provisioning profiles and whatnot had expired, so I had to jump through all the Apple hoops again to get a valid build. It then transferred to TestFlight on the first attempt (!!!), and was approved for AppStore by Apple review within 24 hours. All in all I had the new version up and pushed to users in three days, after discovering the blocking iOS 17 bug. (I don’t know what the bug was, I was just hoping that rebuilding with a newer LC version for an iOS version closer to 17 would fix it, and thankfully it did.) Just to share that positive experiences are still possible, even though I totally agree that iOS deployment still IS a hassle. I enjoy web deployment much more, and LC10 is getting better and better at that. /Andreas > 21 dec. 2023 kl. 20:28 skrev Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>: > > BTW I should add that I do not think this is Livecode’s fault. I imagine > every developer for every platform has to deal with this, and now it’s all > bled over to desktop apps as well. Seems like forced obsolescence to me. > Unmaintained apps get deleted from the store, and therefore from end user’s > mobile devices. How convenient for Apple. > > Bob S > > >> On Dec 21, 2023, at 11:05 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode >> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >> That’s pretty useful, but also dismaying. I’m kind of glad now, because my >> slothfulness had me put off any attempt to make an iOS version of Forms >> Generator. That is all a lot to consider. Not only am I bound to rebuild for >> every version of my app, I am also bound to rebuild based on every iOS, >> MacOS and Xcode versions. No thank you please. >> >> Of course I am not selling my apps so it doesn’t matter very much to me. For >> those of us that produce commercial apps, it matters very much. >> >> Bob S >> >> >>> On Dec 21, 2023, at 5:41 AM, Andreas Bergendal via use-livecode >>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >>> >>> Just for fun, and because Mermaid is my new toy, I threw together a small >>> web stack that shows the various LC-Xcode-macOS-iOS combinations in a >>> sankey diagram, where you can also change the order of how they are >>> displayed. >>> >>> I added some Xcode versions that are NOT compatible with LiveCode too, just >>> as extra info (and to get more data points). >>> >>> I don’t know if it adds any insights beyond what you can simply see in the >>> table Heather linked to, but it was a suitable set of data for the sankey >>> format, and also a proof of concept that running Mermaid code in a browser >>> widget deployed to web works flawlessly. :) >>> >>> See it here: https://wheninspace.com/LCXcode/ >>> >>> /Andreas >>> >>> >>> >>>> 18 dec. 2023 kl. 18:11 skrev Heather Laine via use-livecode >>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>: >>>> >>>> Folks, you should upgrade to Xcode 15.0 not 15.1 - see this table (top >>>> FAQ): >>>> >>>> >>>> https://livecode.com/resources/support/ask-a-question/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Best Regards, >>>> >>>> Heather _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode