Indeed so - and until/unless they do, there is a big hole in LiveCode's web 
deployment capability - and it'll only going to get bigger and affect more 
platforms if Windows 8 / IE10 does go down the no-plugins route.

However, maybe they don't need to 'boil the whole ocean at once'. Whilst it 
would be great to simply deploy full-blown, native stacks as complete rich web 
apps, there are constraints imposed by the browser as a platform. 

So, is there any merit in starting with the basics - support for static 
LiveCode cards as forms? Could where specific cards in a LiveCode server stack 
be enabled with a subset of UI controls (with maybe a restricted property set 
in this context) and be embedded within HTML page template code elsewhere on 
the server?

If moving parts were ignored (initially) don't most properties of LiveCode 
cards, fields, buttons, menus, images mapped to HTML and CSS parameters? Could 
JSON be used for custom properties? Could a set of standardised, minimal, 
Javascript utilities be used as client-side glue - maybe a RunRev jQuery 
library? Could the new cookies be used with this library to manage client 
states? Could moving parts be added subsequently with additional mappings of (a 
subset of LiveCode features) to standardised HTML, jQuery and Ajax?

Obviously, any technical architect reading the above will realise that I've no 
idea what I'm talking about ;-) 

However, this it seems less than impossible - and with a modular KISS approach, 
some aspects seem relatively easy (at least to state the requirements!) 

But even if it isn't easy, if RunRev don't grasp the nettle on this, developers 
who must deploy standards-based rich apps into cloud and locked-down Enterprise 
environments will be forced elsewhere, which would be a shame.
Best,
Keith..     

On 21 Sep 2011, at 23:53, Chipp Walters wrote:

> Yeah, it's certainly the mothership would have to take on...
> 
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Andre Garzia <an...@andregarzia.com> wrote:
> 
>> Chipp,
>> 
>> I tried doing something similar but the one point that I could not solve
>> was
>> how to maintain state for the different clients. Unless I converted
>> everything to JS, then it was basically impossible. :-(
>> 
>> Cheers
>> andre
>> 
>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Chipp Walters <ch...@chipp.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> http://www.realsoftware.com/web/
>>> 
>>> Looks to me like it compiles to a binary CGI which serves up the app as
>>> HTML/CSS/AJAX/Javascript/etc..
>>> 
>>> ooooo. That's the solution for LC.
>>> 
>>> Wouldn't it be cool to develop a modular website engine, which could
>> easily
>>> be configured inside of RR? Or, take a really cool app, and put it on
>> your
>>> server, accessible for anyone with a browser, including iPhone, Android,
>>> Chromebook, Linux, Windows 8.9 and 10? And-- not have to worry about
>> stupid
>>> AppStores?
>>> 
>>> ooooo.
>>> 
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