On 02/26/2012 06:42 AM, Judy Perry wrote:
You are correct; they have NO IDEA how their file system works. I'm lucky if they can even recall what they named a file, and they pay ZERO attention to file formats. One couldn't grasp the concept of overwriting a file. Sigh.

Judy

On Tue, 14 Feb 2012, Peter Bogdanoff wrote:

When I started working at UCLA in 1996 very few students had used computers before entering, or at least had used their own computers rather than a lab one in grade school. Now 15 years later all have a laptop in class. However, about 3/4 of the Mac-using students in a music history class use Spotlight to find files and open applications on their Macs and most of these don't know any other way to find their files. In other words, they don't really have a clue how the file system works. I only started to discover this when I had them install a project that I'm developing and found out that many have been running it from their Downloads folder and didn't know to do it any other way.

Would you call these people computer-literate? They sure are Web and social media literate. So the sooner OS X moves to an iOS-type Finder the better for them. It could be that OS X is just too easy to use and so they never learn more than Word, Google, YouTube, and Facebook. The Windows users seem to know a little more, at least their own version of Samsung Windows or Dell Windows, but it's only a little more.

Peter Bogdanoff
UCLA


Speaking as a reactionary 50 year old; I think:

1. No child under the age of 14 should be allowed any mathematical crutch apart from a slide-rule.

I find, in my "EFL" school, that kids find sliderules rather interesting, and they are able to SEE how numbers
  work; something one cannot do with a pocket calculator.

2. At 14 children should all be given something like a Pentium 2 with FreeDOS and taught
    how to navigate themselves around a system with no GUI.

3. At 14 children should be given a course in something like BASIC or LISP on that GUI-less computer.

3.1. Probably preceded by a few weeks "doing programming" on paper, and messing around with buttons in cups.

4. At 17-18 children should all be given a PC with an operating system with a WIMP-GUI on it after they have passed a test to demonstrate their familiarity with a Terminal emulator.

It is far more IMPORTANT that kids learn to think logically and coherently than possess fancy electronic
equipment.

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Why the hell most parents want to CRIPPLE their kids by lobbing them a fancy laptop and/or hand-held at about
the same time they are toilet trained escapes me.

Richmond.

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