Hi, Bob!

Would it meet the intent of what you are saying to essentially close the 
bugs-to-be-fixed list for a major release some period of time--say a 
month--after the release of the next major release?  (With the caveats of "may 
opt to do so" as you say.)  Or should that period be in the 3 months to 11 year 
range?  That is, the person who bought the earlier release just before the new 
release was (uh) released would have a month to say that the product does not 
work with his stuff.  

Dar

On May 4, 2012, at 3:41 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

> If I may chime in here, if there is a bug in a prior major revision, and no 
> one called to say so, and there is no maintenance contract, then I think the 
> end user should pay for the new major version. You may as a favor, and if you 
> know what the problem is, do a bug fix and release it, but that would be up 
> to you IMHO. Also, if no one called to report the bug, it was either no a 
> very big one, or else not a very commonly encountered one, or the end user 
> was thinking, "I'll not bother to report it." In any case it doesn't seem 
> fair that the developer should be REQUIRED to fix it, but of course may opt 
> to do so in the interest of good customer relations. 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On May 4, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Dar Scott wrote:
> 
>> Thank you, Tim.  This is very clear and attractive.
>> 
>> I do have a question.  If Product X is on version 8.8 and a customer is 
>> using 1.0.5 (released 11 years ago, just before 2.0.0) and finds a bug, do 
>> you fix the bug?  That is, do you create version 1.0.6? 
>> 
>> Another.  If Product Y is on 1.5.8 which has not gotten bug reports for a 
>> couple months and you create a new and better version with major feature 
>> changes and plan to release it as 2.0.0.  However, some bug reports come in 
>> for 1.5.8 and the bug does not occur in 2.0.0.  What do you do?  Do you 
>> release the new major release as 1.6.0 (update) or do you release it as 
>> 2.0.0 (upgrade) and then work on 1.5.8 ignoring complaints about 2.0.0 bugs 
>> until 1.5.8 is out, or do you hold off on releasing 2.0.0 until 1.5.8 is out?
>> 
>> is a change in a minor digit an upgrade or an update?
>> 
>> Dar
>> 
>> 
>> On May 4, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Tim Jones wrote:
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Dar Scott wrote:
>>> 
>>>> What would you hope for, look for, in bug fixes when you buy a product?  
>>>> In particular, if I put something into a storefront window and, in some 
>>>> fit of insanity, you bought one, what would you think is a reasonable 
>>>> bug-fix policy for your purchase?  Or your niece bought one?
>>> 
>>> If the product is advertised to offer a feature, and that feature is 
>>> missing, incomplete, or doesn't work as expected, I would expect a bug fix. 
>>>  This is an "update".
>>> 
>>> If the product is not advertised as having a feature, and you add it, I 
>>> would expect it to be a new version.  This is an "upgrade"
>>> 
>>> For my products, I use a 3 place version identifier - major.minor.bug
>>> 
>>> If I release a new project - it's 1.0.0
>>> If I fix a bug or two - it's 1.0.1
>>> If I add a simple feature or improve an existing feature - it's 1.1.0
>>> If I add a new set of major features - it's 2.0.0
>>> 
>>> My customers "always" get bug fixes and minor updates as "updates"
>>> They only get "upgrades" for free if they have a support and maintenance 
>>> plan otherwise they pay a 50% upgrade fee for the new version.
>>> 
>>> This has worked for over 22 years and our customer base is very happy in 
>>> how we treat them.
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
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