Thanks Igor, but you're talking about where constants can be declared; I was talking about where they can be used.

I read the dictionary the same way you do, in the context of declaration (constants can be declared within or outwith handlers, with different context). And I agree with Mark that redefining a constant is a bad idea.

But neither of those was my issue - in my reply to Craig I did what I should have done in the first place and included a complete script showing the problem. Constants that have been properly, globally declared can be used within handlers but do not take effect outside handlers.

So in a revserver that is "just one big script" you cannot use the constants except within any handlers.

-- Alex.

On 29/05/2012 05:51, Igor de Oliveira Couto wrote:
Alex, I don't know if you and I are reading the dictionary in the same way:

On 29/05/2012, at 9:00 AM, Alex Tweedly wrote:

[...]

The dictionary entry for constant says:
If you place the constant statement in a handler, you can use the constant 
anywhere in the handler. If you place the constant statement in a script 
outside any handler, you can use the constant anywhere in the handlers of that 
script.
NB - "can use the constant anywhere *in the handlers* of that script".

That was a reasonable limitation in traditional Livecode - but seems less 
reasonable in the context of revserver.
[...]

I *think* what the dictionary means - and please someone correct me if I'm 
wrong - is that there are 2 ways to declare a constant value: INSIDE a handler 
(like inside a mouseUp, enterField, etc.), or OUTSIDE any handlers (the same 
way you'd declare a SCRIPT VARIABLE). The 2 ways would be like this:

INSIDE A HANDLER

on enterField
    constant kIncrease = 3
    answer kIncrease
end enterField

The problem with declaring the constant that way, is that it is defined only 
for THAT specific 'enterField' handler. If you also had a second handler that 
expected to use that value, such as...:

on closeField
    answer kIncrease
end closeField

...that would fail, because 'kIncrease' is defined only inside 'enterField'. To 
overcome that, you can declare the constant like this:


OUTSIDE HANDLERS

contant kIncrease = 3

on enterField
    answer kIncrease
end enterField

on exitField
    answer kIncrease
end exitField

...would work, as 'kIncrease' will now be available to *all* handlers.

In the context of revServer, this still applies. For instance: if your 
revServer application is just one big script - ie., a 'main' script that 
'includes' or 'requires' others (which is, in effect, the same as having one 
long script) - then a constant declaration outside all handlers will in effect 
make it a global constant.

I hope this helps!

--
Igor Couto
Sydney, Australia


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