Peter W A Wood wrote:

>> On 31 May 2015, at 07:07, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>>
>> If there are bugs that have been submitted but not acted on and
>> are holding up work without a workaround, let's identify those
>> and get them resolved.
...
> I reported a bug - <http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15173>
> - in the default version of LiveCode Server used on On-Rev on 8th
> April 2015. The bug stopped me using LiveCode to develop a small web
> app used by a client. I had to use Ruby instead. When the client
> asked, “What did you write it in?”. I answered “Ruby” not “LiveCode”.

Looks like Lyn Teyla came through with a workaround in that report (thanks Lyn). In fact, I tend to read from stdIn anyway since I rarely use LiveCode Server, preferring faceless standalones so I can do unit testing and reasonably complete server emulation right in the desktop IDE.

Also, your report was against v6.6.5, so while Lyn was able to confirm that this is also present in v7.0.5 in this thread about issues preventing people from moving to v7 this would not be one of them.

Still, it would of course be good to see it fixed, and I spent a couple minutes to search for related items in the DB, and posted links across them to help steward this to resolution.

In the meantime, although Ruby's an excellent language, if you want to use LiveCode for that I believe there's code in the community for parsing multi-part form data, and I could dig some up if you're in a position to rewrite that (though since it's working now I'd understand if it's not worth the time).


> Nobody at LiveCode has bothered to review the bug report yet.

Consider how differently that sentence reads with one small change:

  Nobody at LiveCode has reviewed the bug report yet.

I try to be mindful that this is an international community and sometimes expressions carry different weight in different cultures.

I see a number of people outside the US use phrases like "RunRev can't be bothered" quite liberally, but in the States that wouldn't be how professionals address one another in conversation.

In American culture "can't be bothered" is used almost exclusively as derisive, carrying a connotation that the subject had sufficient time available for whatever task is being discussed, but wilfully chose to do something less important, or perhaps even trivial.

I once worked for a manager with limited technical skills, but he held his position well because he possessed an uncommonly insightful awareness of the nuances of communication that shape human performance.

He advocated with his staff a practice he called "de-hooking", reviewing communications before they go out to see if there's an opportunity to remove any phrases which might raise the recipient's ire, to keep the focus on actionable outcomes.

Lord knows - as do many of you here - this is something I'm still learning to get right myself. I enjoy language, and could benefit from using it less pointedly at times.


We all want things, and many of the things worth having are bigger than any single person can accomplish alone. So we work in teams, together, in a spirit of mutual respect, and collectively we can have a chance to get what we want.

Thanks in no small part to some kind nudging from Jacque many years ago, I try to write as though I'm sitting across the dinner table from the reader. After all, in this community, which includes the core dev team, chances are that'll happen in person at some point or another.

Though I can certainly improve my own "de-hooking", I find a mindfulness of tone helps me get what I need from the people I work with. Extra bonus points that it makes the conversation that much more pleasant as well.

--
 Richard Gaskin
 LiveCode Community Manager
 rich...@livecode.org



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