If I understand what you're proposing, it should be fairly straightforward to create custom properties that you can set for the objects within the group (or perhaps as a behavior of the group) such as "relativeTop," and have that setProp handler calculate whatever offsets you want.
Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media UX/UI Design > On Jun 11, 2015, at 4:27 PM, Paul Dupuis <p...@researchware.com> wrote: > > Folks, > > Thanks for the tips, but I know how to position objects exactly where I > want in a scrolling group > > My "venting" was that IF you are thinking about the layout in terms of > offsets from the top left of the group, you are forever adding the top > or left to your object positions > > If my group is at 50,50 (top left) and has margins of 0 and I want an > object position inside the group at 40 pixel in from the left of the > group and 40 pixels down from the top of the group, I can't set the > topLeft of the object to 40,40 I have to do math like: > > set the top of btn X to the top of the owner of btn x + 40 > set the left of btn x to the left of the owner of btn x+40 > > OR explicitly as > > set the top of btn X to the top of group Y + 40 > set the left of btn x to the left of group Y +40 > > OR very explicitly as > > set the topLeft of btn X to 90,90 > > > Wouldn't it be more convenient to be able to do something like > > set the relative top of btn X to 40 -- and have LiveCode see the keyword > "relative" and position it at 40 pix down from the top of it's owner? > > And have "relative" be independent of the current scroll. So in the same > example if the group is current scrolled down 200 pixels and button > who's original top was 40 (relative to the top of the group or 90 in > card coordinates) is now at -110 in card coordinates. If you create > another object to position, you have to factor in the current scroll as > well. If you could specify "relative", the engine would account for the > scroll for you. > > The "relative" keyword would always be applicable for any object below a > stack, since even for a single button on a card, the button's owner is > the card and "relative top" is the same as "top" since a card topLeft is > 0,0 by definition. > > > >> On 6/11/2015 6:52 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: >> If you want to get the size of the group including stuff outside the >> visible area, look at the formattedheight the formattedwidth or go directly >> to the formattedrect and use that. >> >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Bob Sneidar <bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Seems like you could write a handler that could do it. The owner is what >>> you want to look at in the dictionary. The owner of an object is the group >>> it is in. >>> >>> Bob S >>> >>> >>>> On Jun 11, 2015, at 09:00 , Paul Dupuis <p...@researchware.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> ... that LiveCode had a way you could set any and all the coordinates >>>> (loc, rect, top, bottom, left, right, topLeft, topRight, bottomLeft, >>>> bottomRight) of an object inside a group RELATIVE to the group (AND >>>> independent of the group's scroll) - like the relativePoints property of >>>> a polygon graphic! >>>> >>>> That would make arranging complex layouts of objects in a scrolling >>>> group SO MUCH easier! >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> use-livecode mailing list >>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode