That was just a trip down memory lane. Besides you, Colin, on the east coast, I 
had several people in southern cal trying to send to me from verizon.net 
addresses with the same problem. I moved the domain from on-rev to dreamhost 
and the problem persisted. The mail never left verizon.net . Heather said so, 
dreamhost said so. Don’t care now. Its a problem for the new owner of jhj.com 
if the problem still exists.

> On Nov 14, 2016, at 6:44 PM, Colin Holgate <colinholg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I’m on Verizon, something else must be going on.
> 
>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 9:34 PM, Jerry Jensen <je...@jhjensen.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Heather was very helpful when I was having trouble with not receiving email 
>> from any sender at verizon.net (including Colin(!)). She looked long and 
>> hard for the details. In that case the emails were never sent because 
>> verizon had blocked my entire domain by name. I never did solve it, changed 
>> incoming providers and sold the domain. Anyway, she worked hard to verify 
>> that they had never received the emails. Verizon was impenetrable.
>> 
>>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 4:57 PM, Colin Holgate <colinholg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think that we don’t get a copy of a bounced message. Heather might be the 
>>> one to look for that.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 7:55 PM, Jerry Jensen <je...@jhjensen.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Has anybody had a look at the headers of a bounce message? Do those 
>>>> messages actually exist?
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 4:45 PM, Colin Holgate <colinholg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don’t think your email client makes a difference. Some are using Gmail, 
>>>>> I’m using Mail, others are using browsers.
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