Well Roger, I agree with you - that’s why I went all the way with code signing and creating an installer. But the Norton Catch-22 ("not many people have used this software so we’re going to delete it until more people have used it…”) a small developer is in an impossible position, it seems to me. And even Google Chrome is hostile to .exe files even if they’re code signed. That’s why I was looking for any other solution. Is there a better way?
Graham BTW none of these problems seem to exist on the Mac. Code signing is enough to make an installer acceptable to OSX. > On 22 Jan 2017, at 16:06, Roger Eller via use-livecode > <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > I tend to disagree with the consensus to use zip files on Windows. Nothing > screams UNPROFESSIONAL more than not having an installer that is standard > for the platform you are installing to. > > ~Roger > > On Jan 22, 2017 8:06 AM, "Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode" < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> How about downloading a zip file from a DropBox account? >> >> Richmond. >> >> On 1/22/17 2:59 pm, Graham Samuel via use-livecode wrote: >> >>> Just to report on how this method worked for me: I chose to have a web >>> page from which the zipped file is downloaded. This worked fine, but not >>> without warnings. The browser of choice, Chrome, offered to discard the >>> file, but this was easy to ignore; then either when the zipped file was an >>> installer or when it was just the original standalone, Norton intervened to >>> prevent it running, but at least gave an option to “Run this program >>> anyway”. So I do need to put a number of warnings on my web site, but at >>> least it is less painful than before. >>> >>> In another mail in this thread, answering Richmond, I speculate that the >>> zip file could be delivered via an email attachment. I tried this, and >>> although it seemed to get rid of Chrome’s objection (I was using webmail >>> via Chrome), Norton made the same intervention. So that path is probably >>> not worth going down. >>> >>> Anyway this method certainly improves things, so that’s the one I’m going >>> to use. Pity that code signing doesn’t just sweep this all away, but I >>> suppose to really help naive users there should also be a kind of >>> “harmlessness certificate”, which AFAIK doesn’t exist. >>> >>> Graham >>> >>> On 21 Jan 2017, at 23:37, Graham Samuel via use-livecode < >>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Wow, Jacque, that is such a great idea. Too late where I am to try it >>>> out tonight, but I will certainly try it tomorrow. >>>> >>>> Thanks so much >>>> >>>> Graham >>>> >>>> On 21 Jan 2017, at 20:59, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < >>>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 1/21/17 1:43 PM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> My question is, what do other people do about this? If you generate a >>>>>> new desktop program for Windows and try to sell it as a download, how >>>>>> can you strip away all this nonsense for the average purchaser? >>>>>> >>>>> One of my clients said she'd had it with Windows installers and now >>>>> ships the product as a zip file. The user is instructed to move the app >>>>> folder out of the zip folder. This is just about the only hitch in the >>>>> process, because Windows presents the zip folder as a regular folder and >>>>> users think they can just double-click the app inside the zip archive. >>>>> >>>>> Other than instructing naive Windows users to drag the app folder out >>>>> of the zip archive, there have been virtually no other issues. The signed >>>>> app itself works fine without interference from the OS. >>>>> >>>>> Windows users have become used to installers and expect them, but if >>>>> your app is self-contained and doesn't require changing registry keys or >>>>> other OS-level stuff, it works pretty well. I know that's not what you >>>>> asked, but that's how we solved it. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com >>>>> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> use-livecode mailing list >>>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>>>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>>>> subscription preferences: >>>>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> use-livecode mailing list >>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>>> subscription preferences: >>>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode