Keep in mind, there’s also the lockUpdates property of groups, which while 
differing mechanically “under the hood”, essentially causes the same perceived 
result — while enabled, a group’s rect is not changed when its child objects 
are resized/repositioned.

I don’t know how all these are verbosely named since I also use the default 
property names.

Regards,

Scott Rossi 
Creative Director 
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design 



> On Jun 13, 2017, at 3:37 PM, Devin Asay via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Jun 13, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Devin Asay via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, in essence. If you have a group and set the clipsToRect property to 
>> true (there’s no way to set it in the PI yet—that’s what I’m going to add), 
>> you can then change the rect of the group, and the group will *not* 
>> automatically reset its rect to the size of the child controls + margin. It 
>> is persistent, even if you leave the card or close the stack. Yet the 
>> group’s position and size remains unlocked so you can quickly select and 
>> change the group’s rect if you want. A nice feature when you need it.
>> 
>> ClipsToRect is the property name. So what “plain language” label do you 
>> think would be best for the PI?
> 
> How about “Prevent auto-resize of rect”?
> 
>> 
>> Devin
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 13, 2017, at 4:11 PM, Phil Davis via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com<mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> So it's about manually updating the rect vs. having it in an auto-update 
>> mode?
>> 
>> Phil Davis
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/13/17 3:01 PM, Devin Asay via use-livecode wrote:
>> So far I’m kind of partial to Scott R’s “Persistent rect”. Conversely, it 
>> could be something like “Auto-update rect”, but then the checkbox would be 
>> opposite the property setting. That’s almost as bad as something like 
>> dontUpdateRect. (Sorry, Scott, plug your ears.)
>> 
>> Devin
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 13, 2017, at 3:34 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com<mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com><mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> On 6/13/17 4:17 PM, Jim Lambert via use-livecode wrote:
>> or
>> ‘Clip Group to rect’
>> 
>> There are a few others like that, where the explanation is just the original 
>> term (or close) with spaces added. I always felt that didn't explain much. 
>> But the suggestion does have company in the PI.
> 
> Devin Asay
> Director
> Office of Digital Humanities
> Brigham Young University
> 


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