What I like about this is that it lowers the technical knowledge for setting up a server and is a great starting point as you just need to figure out an SSH client.
I have never really taken to Macs - although I do need to consider getting one in the near future. I have never liked Microsoft based hosting when I use to use ASP - it was always messy and was never as stable as Linux based hosting and cost a fair amount more. At one of the companies I worked at, we had an a design agency client that used Macs for all their designers - but chose to run Windows on them and only use Windows software - never quiet understood that one. I think a good shared host should always be considered as a first choice when it comes to hosting anything - if nothing more than for the time saving, the reduced stress and value. I have never hosted with HostM, but the have been recommended to me a few times and I have only heard good things about them. On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 10:37 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Simon Smith wrote: > > > I got Livecode server up and running on the Windows 10 using both > > XAMPP and WAMP without any trouble. Both WAMP and XAMPP only needed > > a small change. I have documented everything here. > > http://activethought.net/installing-livecode-windows/ > >- and work equally well for hosting a LiveCode server locally. > > Quite nice - thanks for posting that. > > > > I started setting up an online Ubuntu server - but it's been a while > > since I have done it and its many many little steps and a lot of work > > to document. And I don't think its an ideal solution either - > > developers need something reliable that they can get up and running > > quickly and does not require in depth knowledge of Linux to get setup. > > LOL - I said the same think after trying to set up a WAMP server a client > required. I think as with anything touching on platform advocacy, the > easiest thing is the one you know. :) > > In my case I began learning Linux because an increasing number of projects > had client-server requirements, and nearly every shared host and most VPSes > I've seen offer Linux, with only a few offering Windows Server at an > additional cost. > > I've even had clients who use Windows exclusively on the desktop > throughout their org (even the art dept. where Mac might be a better fit), > but when it came to their public-facing systems they use Linux > exclusively, much as Apple, Amazon, and Google rely on it for their clouds. > > With OS X being a certified UNIX and Linux being very UNIX-based, I found > I was able to leverage a lot of Mac automation skills when I started moving > those bash scripts to my Linux hosts. > > In Win10 Anniversary Edition and later, Ubuntu is now available as a > subsystem there too, so one can build their bash skills universally now. > > As for the steps involved, Mike Bonner's outline was very helpful: > <http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2017-June/238297.html> > > And if you use Docker it gets even easier, thanks to Charles Warwick's LC > container, allowing installation in one step, the Docker way: > <http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2017-June/238318.html> > > > > > So after some research I can across ServerPilot.io - a cloud based > > control panel for cloud servers (like Digital Ocean and Vultr). You > > setup a clean server - link it to their control panel - and it takes > > care of everything - in a minute or two you get a nicely setup server > > - with control panel, mysql, apache and PHP.. Their free option gives > > you the basics - everything that you need to get a server up and > > running. There is the option of upgrading the control panel to get > > extra features. Unfortunately the free account does not give you the > > ability to setup SSL, You need to pay $10 a month for that - but you > > can get around that using Cloud Flare. All that you have to do is > > setup LiveCode once everything is done - and you what is > > a really nice little potent little server. > > > > If interested - I have gone through it in more detail here, I rushed > > so hope I have not left anything out - > > http://activethought.net/perfect-livecode-cloud-server/. > > Very nice - thanks. > > This reminds me of an interesting service Scott McDonald put together a > while back, The LiveCode Lab, with multiple versions of LC Server set up > and ready to use: > <http://thelivecodelab.com/> > > The functional part is currently offline, but perhaps if some here were in > a position to lend a hand he might be motivated to bring it back online. > > > And of course if shared hosting will suffice, the good folks at HostM > continue to offer a good price for what is AFAIK the only third-party > commercial hosting service offering pre-configured LiveCode Server: > <https://www.hostm.com/livecode-hosting> > > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World Systems > Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web > ____________________________________________________________________ > ambassa...@fourthworld.com http://www.FourthWorld.com > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Carpe diem *Simon Smith* m. +27 83 306 7862 _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode