On 8/3/17 1:21 am, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:
Just to pay reference to the comment about LiveCode - I missed it the first 
time around...

We (LiveCode Ltd.) did not 'give away' LiveCode. We released it under a 
software license that has strings.

Indeed: but rather more flexible strings than a lot of other software.

R.

The GPL requires (subject to interpretation by lawyers - and a court of law) 
you to also release your source code of the things you write in LiveCode.

I always do . . . both release my source code & stir the Sh*t :)

There's no such thing as a free lunch - there's always some sort of payment 
somewhere - even if that payment is 'for the good of all' rather than in any 
form of 'currently understood currency'.

Currently having a bad attack of indigestion.

Warmest Regards,

Mark.

Sent from my iPhone

On 2 Aug 2017, at 23:24, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
<use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:



On 8/3/17 12:03 am, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:
Richmond Mathewson wrote:

No, I don't think we have to respect Apple's policy at all.
A similar view might ask whether the DevaWriter license terms need to be 
respected, or LiveCode Ltd.'s, or Stephen King's, or the protections afforded 
any creator of an original work.

<snip>

LOL.

I have just changed my Devawriter licensing system so that each instantiation 
of it that I sell is tied to the MAC address of
an individual computer. Therefore there is nothing to respect, a chain is a 
chain, and if someone manages to spoof Mac Addresses
on a large scale to use my program the fact that they would go to that trouble 
proves it's a program worth having!

I have made my "licensing" system as hard as I can: I'm sure it can be broken: 
whether it is worth going to that bother remains to be seen;
after all you can have a site licence for 10 machines at $200.

If I really wanted to make "my fortune" programming computers I wouldn't be 
tinkering around in our spare bedroom at 55 anyway . . .

The reason I have changed it is because I know of someone who purchased my 
Devawriter 3 years ago and now has copies all over the place:
my bad, I should have taken a bit more trouble: at least some people are finally getting 
their heads around "Sanskrit As it Should Be":

http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/home.html

Apple's policy is "just" Apple trying something on. A EULA is NOT a legally 
binding agreement: if you choose to abide by it you
can feel "awfully" moral, much in the same sort of way I haven't fathered 27 
children with 27 mothers simultaneously (which, oddly
enough, is not illegal) makes me fell that I'm slightly more moral in some 
respects.

I bought a 10 year-old Intel iMac about 8 months ago. I had the system install 
disks from a Mac laptop of my wife's that went bang about 3 years ago.
Now I was probably breaking some sort of agreement by using those disks to get my iMac 
going - possibly not "meant" to install on another Mac other
than the one they were bought with. Morally, as the one the disks came with a 
dead computer I could see nothing wrong with using them to get
another, similar computer running; especially as I could find no way to 
purchase Mac OS Lion disks from Apple.

LiveCode give away the Open Source version of their product. . .

Stephen King . . . well, if you really have to read his books you can borrow 
them from the library . . . I read 3 of them in about 1984.

Love, Richmond.

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