Thats why it would be nice to have Revolution name mentioned regularly
in the big IT magazines. Once it gets there the snowball effect will
start working as local national magazines tend to replicate news printed
in the "greater" ones. These news in turn get replicated by IT columns
in local newspapers. For the "old school" we can probably say that
indeed, you can enjoy coding by writing your own externals in C++.
B.t.w, now as we "know" how to do it in C++ it would be also nice to
have tutorials on writing externals (if possible) in C, Visual Basic,
Pascal, D, Ada (check the tiobe programming language ranking at
http://www.tiobe.com/ to see why). Learning by example is the most
efficient (and likely the only) approach to learn new things.
The old school is actually now being replaced by folks that do php,
perl, python, rubby. And finally there is a growing community of
javascript/ajax, xml, flash/flex/actionscript programmers and "database
people". The situation now is that more and more software is being
written in interpreted languages then in compiled ones. But if
Revolution remains unprinted (=unheard), then it can't reach people
efficiently.
V.
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Computer programming is a fluid situation. There is a momentum that
must be hit for a language to be "accepted" within the old school
programming community. And frankly I don't ever see RR hitting those
folks. Which is ok with me, lets move forward instead of trying to
convert a bunch of "old ways are best" programmers.
In the end, whatever tool you use to accomplish the task at hand is
the one you want to use. I just think if you can do it in a much
simpler and faster fashion, that it is just that much more fun :)
- Noel
At 10:34 AM 5/29/2008, you wrote:
Is it true that most programmers say that hypercard isn't
programming? Do they say that about RR? I'm running into that issue
a little bit.
Some of my students (8th grade and up) think that RR is not a "real"
programming language. Why? It's too easy! They have the notion --
shared by a good portion of the general public -- that programming is
incredibly difficult to do, hard to learn, and mastered only by
geeks. Thus, since making things (even executables) using RR is so
easy, it must not be programming. This viewpoint is especially
expressed by students who have dabbled in other languages, like java.
On the other side of the aisle, I'd like to begin urging other
teachers to begin making their own software to use with their
classes. But they think it's too hard! (Granted, most of them
haven't really tried it -- they hear words like "programming" or
"writing software" and shy away.)
Sigh....
- marty
--
Marty Billingsley
The University of Chicago Laboratory Schools
Recently, william humphrey wrote:
Since my only experience in programming is with hypercard (and most
programmers say that isn't programming) and with web stuff like PHP
JAVAscript which has thousands of carefully indexed examples that
you can
just snip and paste into your projects then I am really not the one to
answer this question.
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