Well, it doesn't solve my problem at this time. I suppose I'll have to
write a parent recursive routine "isEffectiveVisibile" to walk through
all the groups.

Ken Ray pointed out sharply this isn't the case with 'disabled.' When
you disable a group, it disables all the controls within the group.

If anyone already has an "isEffectiveVisible" function, let me know.

best, Chipp
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