Ok, why then is asking for code addressable and rev native curves responded to as a threatening request?

It wasn't.

I've re-read the thread about 3 times just to make sure I didn't miss anything. Richard suggested Flex as an alternative. Scott gave some thoughtful input including his own frustrations on Rev's graphic capabilities versus thankfulness for good PNG support. I've chimed in multiple times when you've gone out and started insulting people. Several people have agreed with you that a native curve object is an excellent request.

You on the other hand went off the handle calling people attack dogs, pompous and Putin-like. Mixed in, you constantly belittle Revolution itself. Do you know the difference between constructive criticism and outright condescension?

Here's my suggestion. Try making some humble suggestions instead of pushing your grandiose vision on everyone. Because you don't seem to be able to do it without being offensive. You lament how Rev is "limping into the present" and "poorly champions" the vision of Hypercard's creators. You once asked where the "xtalked web functions" are... and yet many of us are shipping web-enabled products right now based on the literally dozens of powerful extensions Rev has brought to xTalk in this area. You stomp all over the idea of sockets being an acceptable xTalk layer, and yet I ask you... have you tried using sockets in other language? The power of simply bringing chunk expressions and xTalk syntax is enormous. And yet you dismiss something out-of-hand that you clearly know nothing about. That's not the way to get people to buy into your vision.

You are absolutely free to "burn the flag" and still love your country, as the analogy goes. But if you're gonna burn a flag among a bunch of war veterans, you better have some tact in how you go about it. And don't go ranting about peace and love to them if you can't be bothered to learn about the wars they fought in.

I for one welcome EVERYONE to share their vision for Rev. Just have a little humility and patience when you do it. Some people will agree with you, some will disagree. Some will offer alternative solutions. In the end, it will surely enrich the topic. I would quite like to actually discuss some of these features.

How about this. Clearly the two of us specifically clash, and I don't think we're going to suddenly agree. However, I for one would welcome a specific wish list of new graphic capabilities including a curve object. Perhaps one at a time, you could suggest some and we all could start discussing them, since everyone is probably sick of reading us "fight" =).

- Brian
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