"Just yesterday my XP system got another update, and my OS X 10.4 system got an update the week before."
Its not like that at all. Debian Lenny is still getting updates, to both apps and to security and to base system. That is like what you are speaking of with both XP and 10.4. But that is not what is happening with Ubuntu. The passage from 8.04 to 8.04.4 is in some ways less than the changes that take place within a Debian release, because most bugs are not (as the articles I cited earlier documented) not fixed in them. Similarly the updates you get for XP and OSX are less than what you get from the Lenny updates, because the latter give updates to applications, unlike the OSX and XP ones. But the passage from 8.04 to 9.04 is much more than an update, and far more than any update to Lenny or Squeeze, these are real new releases, getting close to Tiger > Leopard > Snow Leopard. But its every six months! What Ubuntu does is completely different from what MS, Apple or Debian is doing. it remakes the whole distribution out of a pool of Debian experimental packages every six months. its like we were going major releases every six months. The passage from one Ubuntu release to another is not an update of a base system. That is the whole point, and how it differs from Debian. But its also how it differs from XP and OSX. Now, that may be a reasonable way to conduct business for Ubuntu. its not the way some of us would do it, but its their way. What is indubitable is that it means that while you have to test your releases against some versions of Ubuntu, because there's a lot of it out there, Fedora too for that matter, you cannot and should not take "Ubuntu", or even some specific release of it, as your reference distribution to certify feature compliance against. Because, unlike either XP, 10.4 or Debian Stable, it is not that sort of thing. Its not one thing, its lots of them, its a moving target, in a way that none of the above is. Pick one release, and it will not guarantee you functionality against the next one. Its a crap shoot. Look, let Rev prove me wrong. Carry on testing against Ubuntu, and start delivering proper functionality and a well defined feature set that performs. I could be wrong, and this would be the way to prove it. But until they do that, its just obstinate persistence in continuing to do something that is not working, and that knowledgeable industry people argue cannot possibly work. Surely its obvious that the time has come with Rev on Linux to look at what is going wrong, and for everyone to stop defending ways of working that are not delivering? -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Debian-Sidux-Ubuntu-reference-distributions-for-Rev-tp1838336p2014927.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution