On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 11:21:23 -0600 Alex Rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I agree it is much needed! Until it is available maybe allow the user to adjust margins until there is no clipping?
However, I'm guessing it's a difficult feature to implement. Maybe not all printers offer up this information?
Well, I can give examples which seem universal: in Windows, according to a very experienced Visual Basic developer I asked this week, this info is easily available and is assumed to be provided by all printer drivers. On the Mac, the well-known shareware program GraphicConverter offers "use printer's maximum" as an option in its margin-setting dialog, and I've never know it to fail. Can't speak for Unix.
Scott Raney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> also wrote:
Probably more like a good half, or more. More importantly, only a good 1% or so of those that do print care about the printable paper size. In my 25 years of computer experience *I* have never cared about this, and that includes 10 years as an academic doing posters and such with drawing packages that split documents across multiple pages. Since you've always got to cut and paste in these cases anyway, what do I care if I've got to trim off 1/2 an inch or whether the printer only requires I trim off 1/8 of an inch? Now if there were actually printers that print to the edge of the paper, it might be nice to know this so that you can save the user the trouble of assuming they'll have to cut and paste to make a big page out of a bunch of small ones. But AFAIK there aren't any such printers...
Yes there are - Epson for example make them (check out the Stylus Photo 2100 for example).
I've added this to the engine feature request list,
Sincere thanks!
but note that this is only the first request for this I've seen in 11 years of engine development, so I'm thinking your expectations in this area may need some adjustment because it seems you really may be the only person who cares about this ;-)
Well, maybe so... until other listers speak up, I won't be able to prove otherwise! Doesn't anyone have any aspirations to do any form of precise page layout using RunRev?
PS: note that the printMargins don't apply when using "print..into rect", which is what all non-trivial apps are going to use anyway.
According to the TD (and also noted by Richard Gaskin in another post):
The card is scaled to fit the specified pageRect.
This therefore means if I'm printing anything that is supposed to have an exact measurement on paper then I need to know that my printing is not going to be enlarged or reduced except under my control. (A ruler is an obvious example, but I have plenty of others - my current application involves printing a paper model on lots of bits of paper for kids to stick together afterwards: clearly all the bits must be printed to the same scale, and as far as possible each complete part should be on a single bit of paper).
So changing the behavior of printMargins wouldn't solve your problem anyway. A new property would be required instead.
Well, I would gladly accept any way to get the information.
Meanwhile I will tell the teachers to find the maximum paper size by experiment.
Thanks for listening.
Graham
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