Thanks Andre and Bob,

Good tips.  Never thought of console.  I'll have to add it as a must-do to my 
troubleshooting checklist.

Gregory


On Thu, Jun 17, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Andre wrote:

> Gregory,
> 
> If you're felling like doing some unix, then you can launch console.app (not
> terminal.app, I keep mixing them) and check out the logs in there, specially
> system.log. There might be some hint in there. Once my system was taking
> about 10 minutes to boot up, after being fed up for months, I decided to
> look at the logs. What was happening was that once upon a time, I had
> installed parallels and vmware, their kernel stuff were still loading even
> though I did not had the apps anymore but the biggest criminal was an HP
> monitor thing for the printer that I don't have anymore that would stall the
> system for minutes while it loaded. Now I know better....
> 
> Cheers
> andre

> Message: 16
> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:14:08 -0700
> From: Bob Sneidar <b...@twft.com>
> Subject: Re: What's With the Tilde After the Stack File Extension?
> To: How to use Revolution <use-revolution@lists.runrev.com>
> Message-ID: <3046130a-b3de-4864-ac22-23acafb29...@twft.com>
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> 
> Be careful about the Console Logs tho'. There is a lot of normal stuff that 
> floats through there that looks like there is something wrong, but there 
> isn't. I spent a lot of time googling until I realized I was just chasing 
> ghosts. And IMHO HP is notorious for really badly written drivers, for both 
> PC and Mac. I bought 3 separate models of printers where the drivers on the 
> CD that came with it did not actually work! I always get the drivers from the 
> support site now. 
> 
> Bob
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