On 10/21/2010 10:27 AM, Peter Alcibiades wrote:

Chipp Walters wrote:

....Jeez, how long before you have to JAILBREAK your Mac in order to put
your
own programs on it? I believe it's just around the corner..haven't been
wrong yet.....

We all have to decide, its both a personal thing and a society thing.  The
personal thing
is do we want to do what we want with the devices we have bought, or do we
want
the people who sold them to us to tell us what we can do.

The social thing is, the PC/Smartphone/tabet is moving to becoming the main
vehicle
by which people get access to content - books, press, etc.  The borders
between
what is an app and what is content are blurring, and increasingly control of
the
app is a way of controlling the content that app gets for the user.  We have
to decide
whether we want this access to be controlled by corporations, or if we want
it to be open.

So the problem society has with Apple is not whether it will close down OSX,
I think
Chipp is right, it will just as soon as it thinks it can.

I think they will end up shooting themselves in the bottom if they do this;
sooner or later end-users will work out that a PC for half the price, running some sort of easily installable desktop Linux (Mint?) at no price at all looks better than an OS tied to hardware tied to dictatorial control about what you can and cannot do with
the thing!

I am inclined to belive that Jobs, while, possibly, suffering from some sort of
megalomania, cannot believe that he has a sufficient brainwashed following
to allow him to dictate terms to people who pay him.

When it comes down to things, one has to keep the customer happy, unless,
of course the "cult of Macintosh" is far more cult-like than we all realised.

However, if you think I'm going to start peddling flowers in airports for Steve Jobs you have another thing coming: done that once, and once bitten, twice shy!

   Its what the
effect on society will be if that
model is generally adopted.  By, for instance, the main on-line bookseller,
in an era
when e-books are the only way to get lots of titles.

Well; as an ex-moonie once remarked to me; out in the "real world" there are plays to go to, films to watch, books to read, flowers to smell that don't require the imprimatur of "Hoo Flung Dung". And, who, without being brainwashed is going to opt for a
restricted view of things?:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ticket_To_Heaven

Out in the Open Source Software world the likes of Steve Jobs and Bill Gates can go
and "boil their heads".

So; if I want to read an e-book I am, obviously (unless I am hypnotised), going to make sure I have some sort of machine to read the thing, and by 'thing', I mean ANY e-book I want to read, not only those Jobsy or Gatesy have decided is suitable for my tiny mind.

[ Just the other day I found an illegal copy of 'Dr Zhivago' (in Russian) that had been smuggled out of the Soviet Union in 1978 by my late Father-in-law; he risked prison and beatings for that! ]

Down the line . . .

. . . This does mean that the RunRev / LiveCode people will have to stop looking at their Linux variant as "the odd one out" and start treating it equally to the Mac and Win variants; and, mayhap,
in due course, put it in pole-position.
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