I agree it wasn't a surprise, but sometimes the reality of things doesn't match expectations (there's no mention of the banner staying on the screen for 10 seconds). At this point, I have no plans to offer my application for commercial use but I ought to be able to run a standalone on my own computer without the banner appearing, or at least not for 10 seconds, every time I start the app. Running my own app on my own computer is not "commercial use", unless I charge myself for the app ( I don;t think I can afford it though!).

This whole commercial use thing is fraught with loopholes I think. For example, let's say I develop some killer utility code in the personal version that is generically useful for lots of LiveCode developers and I sell it in the form of a stack file. The developers pay me money, incorporate the code into their apps, build a standalone in a Livecode version that allows commercial distribution, and sell it on to their customers. Am I breaking my license agreement?

Personally, I think there should still be a license key that ties LiveCode Personal to a specific computer, both the IDE and any standalones built with it. Then my standalones won't display the message when they run on my computer but they will on any other.

I'm pretty much going back to 4.0 for now, at least to build standalones. I don't have a use for the new features on 4.5 and using 4.0 allows me to build standalones that don't bug me. Of course at some point, I won;t be able to continue doing that as more enhancements are incorporated into LiveCode, but for now it works fine for me.

In the generals scheme of things, this isn't a big deal, LiveCode is still a great way to develop applications, it's just that licensing methods have always been a pet peeve of mine.

Pete Haworth

On Nov 13, 2010, at 8:14 AM, Malte Brill wrote:

Even though I can understand splash screens feel annoying, I can not see this as a surprise, as this is clearly stated on the runrev.com homepage:

"Applications created with this license will include a splash screen or watermark. The Server Deployment Pack comes with a limit on the number of connections with this license type."

http://runrev.com/products/livecode/license-types-overview

As that edition is much cheaper than previous studio licenses I can understand RRs decision in adding this. I don´t know about Director nowadays, but when I had to decide if it is RR or Director back in the day, each Projector built displayed a "Made with Macromedia" dialogue that could not be dismissed.

It is worth noting, that the commercial packs do not have this Banner.

Just my 2 € cents worth.

Cheers,

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