Wow, Andre, you make me want dive in the deep end of the pool! Especially if you come from an RB background. What's more, unlike you, I'm NOT a programmer, which makes this sound all the more appetizing.
The SQLite news is very exciting, as I would like to be able to embed databases ‹ as well as multi-user database solutions. How about generating reports? I know that RB is limited in that, and one ends up having to buy some plug in... And one last thing: falo portugues tambem. Sou brasileiro. I'm excited about this. All the best, Michael Reade on 3/18/04 3:13 PM, Andre Garzia at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Mar 18, 2004, at 1:09 PM, Michael Reade wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> >> I've been a Filemaker developer for a few years, and am looking for a >> development environment to connect to a backend (Openbase, MySQL, >> something >> like that). >> >> I started to pick up RealBasic, and then I heard of RunRev. I read an >> white >> paper by Geoff Canyon, from September 2001, which was very >> informative, but >> a bit old. >> >> I appreciate it if anyone can direct me towards any recent literature, >> or >> might want to forward any opinions, regarding RunRev x RealBasic, and >> RunRev >> connecting to databases. > > Micheael Reade, > > Although I am not one of the major players here :-D I can give you some > hints and tell about my experience so far for I am making heavy use of > database here and got a good REALBasic background. > > I begun programming for MacOS with REALBasic and did a nice app called > iblog (http://iblog.soapdog.org), that time I thought REALBasic was > everything and was overhelmed with the ease of use of RAD tools (I was > switching away from Linux and Win32). Since I've got a Delphi and VB > background, I was home with RB. Very nice RAD Tool indeed. Times > changed, apple launched MacOS X and I was pennyless to buy RB upgrades > so I decided to check what my options were. I started learning C and > Cocoa stuff, clever things, but I hate C... and yet, I launched iBlog > successor in Objective-C, called BlogWorkz > (http://blogworkz.soapdog.org). > > Then I stumbled in HyperCard articles, find the idea interesting and > started looking around, found supercard and metacard and RunRev with > it's 1.0 free edition (that was called something else), I read that the > only limitation was a 10-line-limitation in the source of your > functions. I thought: "no one can do things in less than 10 lines". > Well after reading the included tutorials, I saved money, waited for > the 2.0 release, and bought a nice studio license. > > I launched my own software house called Soap Dog Studios > (http://www.soapdog.org) and started delivering solutions based on > Revolution. First, it took me two days to reimplement BlogWorkz/iBlog > functionality in Revolution, and that includes creating my own > implementation of XML-RPC. After fiddling much with internet protocols, > I joined a contract for a Database based app, never worked with > Database in Rev before, it's plain easy. First you have a marvelous > tool called the Database Query Builder, if you need only simple queries > and transparent transport between query data and your text fields, this > will serve you with no programming required. If you mix it with the DB > funcs then you can do anything. Best of all, the API is very elegant > and serves all RDBMS, no matter if it's valentina or mysql or oracle, > it's the same API. You'll open a connection to a remote MySQL server in > a single line, you can query it and close it, three lines at all.. or > use Database Query Builder, and use no line at all! :D > > Be aware that there are some undocumented functions for Database that > can realy save the day. This list is the most usefull group in the > world. People here are friendly, they actually answer your emails and > smile. They can point you to numerous resources till you get the grip > to investigate the bowels of Revolution on your own. This "hidden" > functions can serve for example to change at runtime the query of a > auto-query built with Database Query Builder, this is pretty usefull > for SELECT ... WHERE queries. Also, we're waiting for a SQLite external > that will enable us to deliver database solutions that won't need the > fuss of a server instalation (of course you can buy valentina and be > happy just now!). > > Revolution is just more productive than RB. There's no code-build-debug > cycle, it's easier to reuse code, those internet protocols are easier > to use and stacks abllity to save it's state is very handy. I for > example, am very involved with a project I call the revHTTPd project > (a.k.a. the serverworkz framework), it's a WebServer and Framework > build in pure transcript language with advanced features like automatic > data transportation from/to html forms and stacks, database > manipulation via web and the like. This is not possible in RB, the > complexities of such project would render it impossible for a one-man > team to do it. I couple days, I've got it all running, the server and > the framework, the hard part was learning HTTP, coding in Revolution > was the easy task. > > Keep in mind that your not only buying a programmer tool. Revolution > can truly change the way you plan and deliver you solutions, for > example, I am also a BeOS programmer, there I must use C for coding, I > use 80% of my time cursing C and 20% coding.. :-D > > Also, the one thing I find great about Revolution is the nice gathering > of people around it. The community is strong and helpfull, we've got > Dan book, we've got the insights of Dar in those primes, we've got > those fine articles of Richard in the 4W Rev Embassy, all those tactile > media stacks by Scott that makes me wonder when we'll launch the first > arcade game made in Rev, the nice SMTP lib by Shao Sean, the collection > of code snipets and XML Lib by Ray of sons of the thunder, nice tools > and code by Klaus... and a lot of other people here (from newbies to > RunRev employees) that I'll not mention for this is an email and not a > political propaganda for my future candidature and I promissed to quote > less than 10 names. Well, the resume is, it's not just the tool, it's > the group. This list will learn and teach with you, and if you decide > to join the Revolution there's still time for booking for that nice > trip to malta that people here are organizing. > > Oh... I was forgeting... in RB you cannot build for MacOS Classic, > MacOS X, Win32, Linux, FreeBSD, Irix, AIX, HP-UX with the click of a > button :D > > PS: I am a native portuguese speaking person, so my english is > sometimes fuzzy. > > I'll put some literature links here, I also advise to get Rev.NET > plugin stack, and if you got the money buy Rev book from Dan. > > Fourth World Revolution Embassy (read the articleeees!!!) > http://www.fourthworld.com/rev/index.html > > Sons Of The Thunder Resources > http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/devres.htm > > > Dar Scott (read the message primer... ) > http://www.swcp.com/dsc/revstacks.html > > The Book by Dan > http://www.revolutionpros.com > > Oh hell... I am reinventing the wheell again!!! I can just point you to > Revolution WebRing and all the links are there, silly me. > http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=runtimerevoluti1 > > Also check on Altuit site and TactileMedia site, they've got really > impressive apps made in Rev, they are not only code-impressive but a > real eye candy, I wish I had a designer here too! > > I know I must be forgeting someone or something... I just awoke, I am a > little sleepy... > > Cheers > Andre > > > > > >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Michael Reade _______________________________________________ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
