The group does not need to be bigger then the window, infact, in this case, you want the group to be exactly as big as the stack. Then you set the scrollbar. Very important is to set the lockLoc of the group to true (on "Size & Position" in the inspector check "Lock Position and Size").

Now to get things scrolling you could set something within the group to the target size. For example (use message box for this):
set the loc of image "placeholder" to 10, 4000
now your group is scrollable up to 4000 pixels.


You can also drag your controls within the group around to get things scrolling, just use the "select grouped controls" mode and drag them out of bounds.

another aproach could be to generate your "real" controls using a script:

start editing group "Your groups name here"
put 12,20 into myCoords
repeat for 200 times
  create button
  set the loc of it to myCoords
  --set other properties of it here
  add 20 to item 2 of myCoords
end repeat

If this is all too complex for you then just ask again!

On Sonntag, Apr 11, 2004, at 22:58 Europe/Zurich, Graham Samuel wrote:

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What is not clear is what happens if you want to have the scroll distance a lot larger (let's say higher) than the available screen size: how do you get to see the far-off parts of the group in order to populate it in the first place, using the usual method of positioning objects visually?
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