Hi Chipp, >From what I could tell on the list over time would be a Filemaker Pro style database.
SQLite is free and well supported. Making it an external and giving the rev community a "starter" interface might appeal to the masses? Maybe a follow on business would be a rev plugin that could utilize the SQLite as a table object? And a personal favorite would to have a graphing module that would create serveral types of graphs that excel produces...this may have the largest mass appeal? This would give the rev users the ability to add a standard desired component to their projects. A math engine external? An ssh client? Just a few of my wishes. Maybe regards. On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 20:21:28 -0000, Derek Hadlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > Windows Mobile platforms have had .Net capability for a while via the .Net > Compact Framework and controls support from vendors such as ComponentOne. > Visual Studio IDE (Professional and above) provides projects 'out of box' > for Mobile devices and even an emulator to test your application without > having a PDA/Smart Device. > > Current .Net framework (1.1) Will work on Windows Platforms all the Way back > to NT4 SP6a with certain caveats. > > Mono on Linux works quite nicely and I regularly build on MS .Net and run on > windows and Vice Versa. Only real weakness at moment is the Windows Forms > Implementation on Mono is a 'work in progress' and relies on Wine emulation. > Iam using GTK bindings on .Net to address this for now. > A lot of these limitations are been addressed in future versions as well as > VS2005 compatibility and now Novell is stewarding the effort its moving > along at quite a rate. There will always be some minor differences ( IP > issues and certain frameworks not been useful on non Windows environments). > > Like most things in theory ( I think :-)) )Revolution could be made so that > it emits Mono/MS .Net compatible ILASM code which could be run on top of a > .Net or Mono runtime enivronment. Points to note here are :- > > Would need a ground up rewrite of Revolution to generate ILASM instead of > Its own integrated custom bytecode engine and code model. A BIG Job I > would expect ! > > Revolution as it is has the nice feature of very easy deployment with > most applications been comprised of a single file approx 2MB in size. > Mono and .Net are in the 20 to 40 MB range unless frameworks etc are > already installed on system its to be deployed on ( Very uncommon > currently ). Solution to reduce .Net size and not require framework to > be installed globally do exist and cost is $$$$ ( Xenocode $1500 !! ). > This issue often occurs with Java too :-) > > I would personally think a better course to take would be the one Gordon > suggested in his OT, namely make it easy to bind to .Net/Mono in a similar > Way to how you can use .Net functionality from ActiveState Perl using > PerlNet supplied with their Perl Development Kit. > > Phew that got a bit too long and OT :-)) > > Cheers > Derek > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank D. > Engel, Jr. > Sent: 03 February 2005 19:24 > To: How to use Revolution > Subject: Re: New Externals... > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > "Going to be" cross-platform? Check here: > > http://www.mono-project.com/ > > Hmm... what about a Rev runtime for .net? I think .net will be > available for Windows Mobile soon (is it already?), so a .net runtime > version would automatically provide support for software on Windows > Mobile, Windows itself (2000+, correct?), and apparently Mono-supported > platforms as well (various flavors of Linux, plus OS X more or less -- > more soon, I hope) -- and possibly even future platforms which don't > even exist yet! > > On Feb 3, 2005, at 2:01 PM, Gordon Webster wrote: > > > Dear Chipp > > > > An "externals external" would be great. Something that > > could expose the functions and type requirements in > > standard windows dlls or *nix .so shared library (and > > their OSX equivalents). > > > > As is already the case in C#, Java or some of the > > flavors of Basic, you could then import these > > functions directly into transcript something like ... > > > > externalHandle = altuitUseExternal("mylib.dll") > > > > IMHO runrev really needs a more accessible interface > > to the vast wealth of shared libraries that exist out > > there, without having to write wrappers for every new > > library you want to use. I would love to be able to > > use OpenGL from within rev for example and create > > interactive 3D viewports on my rev stacks. > > > > OT: Wouldn't it be great to have .NET bindings for > > rev, especially since it seems that .NET is going to > > be a genuinely cross-platform runtime (please no Java > > Vs. .NET flames or any other anti-MS invective - I'm > > no great fan of MS, but it seems that they've finally > > done something right with .NET) > > > > Best > > > > Gordon > > > > > > > > > > --- Chipp Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> The recent altBrowser bundle offering was a success > >> thanks to RR users > >> all over the world. A personal thank-you from Chris > >> and I for all of > >> your support. And thanks to RunRev for an excellent > >> job of helping to > >> get the word out. > >> > >> We're currently working on a free upgrade for > >> altBrowser (both Mac and > >> PC) which we hope will be out next week. > >> > >> So, this got Chris and I thinking about other > >> externals. Before we > >> started, we wanted to get some feedback from RR > >> users as which externals > >> you would like to see. Keep in mind, they need to be > >> cross-platform, and > >> they need to have some sort of mass market appeal. > >> > >> Here are a couple of ideas we have: > >> > >> 1) USB external support. That about says it all > >> right there! > >> > >> 2) Image Effects library. The ability to > >> import/export many different > >> formats, apply special effects like dropped shadows, > >> borders, sharpen > >> and blur and more. > >> > >> If you have any other ideas, please let us know, > >> either on this list or off. > >> > >> Thanks again! > >> > >> -Chipp Walters > >> Altuit, Inc. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this outgoing message. > >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >> Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.4 - Release > >> Date: 2/1/2005 > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> use-revolution mailing list > >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > >> > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > >> > > > > > > ===== > > :::::::::: Gordon Webster :::::::::: > > _______________________________________________ > > use-revolution mailing list > > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > > > > - ----------------------------------------------------------- > Frank D. 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