On 26/02/2006, at 0:50, "Sarah Reichelt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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To digress slightly, I think the reason Rev appears to have so many
bugs is because it is so versatile. We all use Rev in different ways
to do widely different projects. I ignore some bugs because I never do
the things they refer to. Others find the same bugs to be project
blockers. Then again, some people use Rev in a way that the
development team never imagined. That's great, but it means they will
be the first to strike bugs in those areas. By comparison, testing a
single-use application like a word-processor should be simple, but
they still crash :-)

Very true. Rev is a complex application. The productive efficiency of writing it in itself, as it were, should not fool anyone into believing otherwise.

I wonder is the Rev team doing itself a disservice by letting all Rev
users access the bug reports? While most people seem to value the
chance to point out problems and influence future versions, some
people regard a public bug list as an admission of failure. Maybe it
would be better to restrict bugzilla to members of the improve-rev
list or make it by invitation only.
Perhaps rather than restricting it by fiat, RR could make access to the bug list voluntary, just as it allows switching on access to this list or doing so in digest or e-mail form. If you "sign up" then you also receive notifications of changes to the bug list [optionally Selected or All], the intention being to keep you actively involved while you continue your interest but shutting the list off from casual access. Sign-up would also be a moderated event. Thus, engage those who are interested (and allow them more votes) with full information available, still open in principle to anyone.

Meanwhile, Rev could also provide a "Problem report" option under the Help menu where you did not have access directly to the bug list but had the opportunity to enter a problem, rate it on its own (with reasons), and have some lookup of related problems (based on selected category or on key terms) so that the user could also say their problem is the same as or like or unlike others which from their terms appear to be related. Thus, serious simplification with information concealment while still allowing free report.

My general idea is to retain for all the ability to report to the real list even if that list remains behind the scenes, allow the simplest and easiest access for anyone to do so, and to engage more effectively by interaction the users motivated to provide comparative voting rather than one-off voting. Give me some critique and I will try making an enhancement proposal.

These are speculative thoughts on my part.

Just a few random thoughts,
Sarah

regards
David
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