Bill Marriott wrote:

You're saying that Rev's existing table object is just spiffy? Oh my, my ribs hurt from the laughter!

I hate to curtail a good chuckle, but that's not what I wrote. You might have a simpler time with my posts by reading the full text of them before replying.

I wrote in agreement with your main point:

   Sure, it could use enhancement. For example, a strong
   nice-to-have is per-column alignment, and there's a
   BZ request for that which I would imagine has the
   attention of Rev's engineers.


I'll try to summarize my post for you as briefly as I can:

- I agree with you that list display can and should be enhanced in Rev.

- I disagree with the implication that it's a trivial effort to do so.

- Database products do not also provide general GUI application
  development, multimedia support, rich Internet connectivity,
  and the many other things that Rev is used for.  Prioritization
  in such a rich application is an ongoing challenge.

- There are many types of list and table objects, some more expensive
  to build than others and they're not interchangeable.  A spreadsheet
  table is very different from a database table, which is different
  again from an html-style table.  They share some common elements,
  but ultimately serve different purposes and require different
  technical underpinnings.  There is no "one size fits all" table;
  FileMaker doesn't include a spreadsheet, Excel doesn't allow controls
  in cells, and neither provides a tree view. Prioritization of these
  very different needs is an ongoing challenge.

- I have no evidence that the folks at RunRev are completely ignorant
  of these needs, and in fact we've heard comments to the contrary here,
  at conferences, and elsewhere (though on balance I do agree with those
  on this list who suggest that more participation here from RunRev
  folks would be an invaluable confidence builder).

- Developers can assist prioritization through voting:
  <http://support.runrev.com/bugzilla/bugzilla.php>

- Many developers are currently shipping highly profitable database
  applications made with Rev as it is today.

- I'm building an app here which handles at least 50,000 records rather
  gracefully, all in native Transcript (if you're coming to Monterey
  for RevCon West you're welcome to heckle my session on "The Bionic
  App" which will discuss this program and how its solutions lend
  themselves to a wide range of common development challenges).
  I'm not sure where the presumed limit of 2000 records came from,
  unless you were merely returning the favor of a good laugh.

...
Does the current "multi-column list" (i.e., glorified tab stops with borders) "prevent" database apps from being built in Rev? No, it just makes *quality* high-performance database presentation applications extremely (and needlessly) difficult to build!

If Rev isn't up to your application's requirements you might consider downloading Visual Basic Express. I hear it's free.

VBA/Office is also an attractive multi-OS platform used for a wide range of highly productive in-house applications.

And of course there's the many dozens of other products said to include the sorts of tables you're looking for.

With so many choices available, it would be a shame to lock oneself into using one tool to build everything.

--
 Richard Gaskin
 Managing Editor, revJournal
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