Hi Joe,
A few weeks back I broached that very issue. Or, maybe, even more
ambitiously, about the total scope of available resources for RunRev.
Can you point me to this post... I am afraid, I don't find the time
to read each single post on this list.
It had become pretty obvious to me that there are just tons and
tons of materials, suggestions, approaches, et. out there, but the
newbie to Rev has got to be bewildered.
I do my best to provide such a list at:
<http://revolution.widged.com/wiki/tiki-index.php?
page=RevolutionWebsites>
<http://revolution.widged.com/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=TutorialsExample>
<http://revolution.widged.com/wiki/tiki-index.php?
page=RevolutionSnippetStacks>
there is dmoz directory, where persons can add mention of their website
<http://dmoz.org/Computers/Programming/Languages/Transcript/>
Richard has a similar list:
<http://www.fourthworld.com/rev/links.html>
And oh, as pointed by mblackman on the forums:
"There is a good list of sites in the documentation but it doesn't
pop out at you.
Go to documentation, click on the Search button at the right hand
side, in the window that pops up click on 'web database' which pops
up a menu, choose 'Go to' and presto there's a list. Maybe they
should make this easier to find !"
Then the problem I experienced is that if a link gets outdated, they
don't get changed. I signaled that the lexicall.org link was not
valid a while ago (replaced by widged.com about a year ago). I was
told that the change would take place in the next version. The next
version comes. No change.
I don't mind the place where this information appears being
revolution. What I do mind however is that this is a place where
information can be kept up to date, with the responsibility for this
being shared by various persons rather than it being a single person
effort.
When I was working heavily with FutureBasic, I was pushing for the
design of a few really good templates to be used by newbies of FB a
starting point. We even did a few; and, except for its Mac only
capabilities, FB is the best, fastest and easiest there is. Lots of
it are in assembly language, and like this list, the FB lists are
impressive, though not as "hurried".
You see, the big problem is that I am about to reply to this post on
the forums <http://forums.runrev.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=650>
"Help! I've built an application in Enterprise (2.7.1 build 236)
booting up in OSX on an external drive - everything is fine,
including the custom Image Library I created to hold about thirty
icons used by my application's buttons. "
I have already replied to this type of question 3-5 times over the
past 2 years. That's really a "classical one".
meaning that an evaluation of the available resource when pursuing
a specific type of design, plus a heads up with respect to the
potential gotchas, is probably a better approach. Break down the
kinds of things that might be attempted by someone, and they
outline an approach that they might use to achieve those ends. I
don't think there is a lot of new ground that would have to be
broken, just guidance as to where to look for an specific
challenge; since you can spend a lifetime reading all the stuff
that is available, but not really find the things that a person
might need at the time. I'm just running off at the mouth, so
excuse me. I know you understand, probably far better than I do.
That was expressed far better than I would have been able to ;-).
Various things I was thinking about :
-------------------------
1. Book formats
-------------------------
Wicked cool?
Demo chapter for Wicked java
<http://assets.devx.com/download/17813.pdf>
Wicked cool shell scripts
<http://www.intuitive.com/wicked/>
Wicked cool perl scripts
<http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/1593270623/>
Phrase Book?
PHP Phrasebook (Sample Chapters)
<http://www.samspublishing.com/articles/article.asp?p=417718&rl=1>
Hacks?
PHP Hacks (Sample Hacks)
<http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/phphks/chapter/index.html>
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2. Design Patterns
-------------------------
Design Patterns / Interface Design?
Ajax Design Patterns (Sample chapter, pdf)
<http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/ajaxdp/chapter/ch10.pdf>
Designing Interfaces
<http://designinginterfaces.com/>
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3. Benchmarking data
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See this forum post by Richard,
<http://forums.runrev.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=571&start=15>
as an excellent example.
I'm actually having to take an hiatus from my column on Revolution
there; perhaps for as long as a couple of months.
That's the same for me. I can contribute time and effort. However, I
cannot do that continuously over a year period. Hence the idea of
going for a structure which allows for different persons to take
responsibility for this.
With FB, I tried to recruit a team to work with me on the
"template" approach, and got a few takers, but ended up doing most
of it myself. I assume it would be the same here, and I don't
currently have the free time to take somethng like this on. Much as
I would love the challenge.
Well, that has been my experience of open source and community
initiatives so far. Many persons are interested in benefitting of the
result of your work. Many persons are enthusiastic at the start. But
well, with time, you end up being the one paying for the webserver
and doing all the work yourself ;-).
Of interest. I am having a parallel discussion with Bill Griffin, of
igames3D. I will take the time to describe the outcome of this
discussion in more details next week.
We are thinking of creating a website to support persons interested
in games (serious gaming, advergaming, games for learning). One of
the idea I have had in that context is to set up some section "rent
an elearning developer" and "rent an animator". More generally, what
I am keen on is building bridges so to allow faster and easier access
to the huge amount of resources that already exist for both teachers
and learners.
The big problem, however, is the one highlighted above. If I start
this, I will have plenty of persons very enthusiastic about this and
encouraging me to go ahead. But in 3-6 months time, I will be mostly
alone to take care of everything.
I am trying to find ways to secure the participation of persons, to
give them a reason to contribute (good visibility in some tutorial
section is good credentials when persons have to decide whether to
hire you as a developer".
Persons who would be interested in discussing this kind of idea in
order to get something started that would be sustainable and
successful are invited to take contact with me.
Rather than go madly on all fronts, I would prefer to select a few
number of initiatives or to associate with persons who are ready to
take responsibility for a given sector/area... such that again, we
avoid the duplication of resources and efforts.
Marielle
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