Dear Bill, I think Revolution is a great product, and I am sure that a multiplatform project requires a lot of work in order to be a "good" product. In this months I have seen the bugzilla reports and forum discussions and then I know same patchs proposed by members of this list to fix same problems. But I think after a lot of work, these bugs can't be in a final release. If I sell my commercial software with these errors the final user asks back me the money. If I said to my final user that this is a beta version, all it is different.
-- Riccardo Linzitto TEKNE informatica & comunicazione > Da: Bill Marriott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Risposta: How to use Revolution <use-revolution@lists.runrev.com> > Data: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 13:16:00 -0400 > A: <use-revolution@lists.runrev.com> > Oggetto: Re: version 7.2 vs 8.0 > > Riccardo, > > First, thanks for your comments and especially for going ahead and upgrading > your license. > > I see you're a member of the "open beta" test group. I'm curious if you are > experiencing the same issues with Beta 5? If so, please take the time to > report them in the Quality Center; we really need that data since the next > build is due soon and expected to be a release candidate for version 2.8.1. > > As we've tried to cover in the newsletter and beta test mailings, the 2.7.5 > target has been renamed to 2.9. That remains our goal for the free update, > the Linux support, and honestly, the quality bar we're aiming for. Some bugs > can only be properly addressed by underlying engine work, and since that's > tied in with Linux, you won't see some major fixes until that version > emerges. > > Having said that, RunRev engineers have fixed more than 500 bugs since the > launch of the open beta program (not all of them appear in Bugzilla). The > Altuit externals have been integrated, which greatly enhance the value of > the product. Windows Vista, with its new UI, different security scheme, and > other changes, is now supported. (I happen to run Vista right now, and while > many programs are flaky under that OS, Revolution is not one of them.) > > I agree that the 2.8.0 release is somewhat controversial. It did have some > rough edges. Nevertheless, it is a much better product than 2.7.4. And with > Vista shipping, I think it was important to replace what was out there for > the benefit of new customers and existing ones alike. Not only that, there > were some patches posted within a week of its release by members of this > use-rev list to address many of the issues you listed. > > I give Revolution credit for not simply labeling 2.8.0 as "2.7.5" and > calling it a day. They knew more work was necessary and they remain > committed to delivering on their promises. > > My most recent announcement to the beta test list invited everyone to email > me directly with their "top five" gripes -- old or new -- still remaining in > the product. I'll take this opportunity to again request this from you, so > we can pin them down and address them for 2.8.1 and/or 2.9. Actually, any of > you reading this now are welcome to email me with your list. And we're still > taking signups for the open beta at http://support.runrev.com/beta_test.php > > I also appreciate the sustained energy of all the "open beta" participants, > who have put the releases through their paces and been the real driving > force behind the steady improvement in quality we've seen over the last five > months. Please keep up the good work! Only with your help can we make 2.9 > truly the version we've all been waiting for, and make Revolution a true joy > to use. > > Bill Marriott > Beta Test Coordinator > bill.marriott(at)runrev.com > > > > > > "TEKNE informatica & comunicazione" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hi, > In November 2006 I appreciated the quality project and the Introducing Bill > Marriott with the plan on the 2.7.5 free update. > My enthusiasm was not only about the free update but it was mainly focused > on the quality concept (for example I have bought the RR Studio for Linux > and the RR Enterprise but after several months I didn¹t still have the 2.7.x > Linux version) > After six months I don¹t find a bug free update or a linux update but at > least I expected that the intense job takes to many steps ahead. > So after the announcement of the 2.8.0 final release with vista support I > have decided to upgrade my enterprise licence to 2.8.0 in order to test my > applications under vista. > But after the installation I find several serious bugs. > ... answer dialogs appeare in wrong formats .... (both in IDE and Standalone > environment) > ... ask dialog with password doesn¹t work ... > ... the dimension of a configuration rev file (password protected) > inexplicably and occasionally grows from 3k to 100000K and more. > > I think these problems depend from the 2.8.0 installation, so I try to > install again the upgrade both Windows and Mac platform, but ... these are. > Finally I throw in the basket the 2.8.0-gm-4 (the Mac manage versions > doesn¹t work ) and I return to work ... > Perhaps it was better to call the 2.8.0-gm-4 final version 2.8.0-dp4 beta > version. > -- > Riccardo Linzitto > TEKNE informatica & comunicazione > > > _______________________________________________ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution _______________________________________________ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
