>> Why? I've never understood what a framebuffer gives you that you >> don't have now. > Just like the network auto-configuration via dhcp, it would allow users to > download images+kernel and run them like appliances without understanding > anything about X or UML, just click and run.
mhh, i also think framebuffer would be nice, but the main idea behind my posting is have some recent linux kernel up and running without any effort - with main focus on kernel, not on apps. sure, it would be nice to have X for the unexperienced users, but if you run uml and get networking up and running, you just do ssh -X into your uml and then you have your X. those people who run the latest kernel for testing special things are not unexperienced, but having a packaged kernel+rootfs "ready to run" would also make _their_ life easier. think of testing several kernels in parallel to find/fix regressions. booting into something graphical with kdm/gdm login, firefox inside etc would be really nice, but that would be probably overkill for the purpose it should serve. framebuffer and X could be added later to uml, and i`m sure, it will exist one day. btw - i think besides that packaged uml+rootfs, the same thing could be distributed in other formats, i.e. qemu, vmware, M$ virtual pc (add your favourite v12n solution here) regards roland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Antoine Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jeff Dike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Blaisorblade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [uml-devel] [RFC] UML kernel & rootfs bundle with every kernel release ? > Jeff Dike wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 08:58:45PM +0100, Antoine Martin wrote: >>> I reckon that one critical thing which could drastically increase the >>> user base would be to have a working virtual framebuffer implementation. >> >> Why? I've never understood what a framebuffer gives you that you >> don't have now. > Just like the network auto-configuration via dhcp, it would allow users to > download images+kernel and run them like appliances without understanding > anything about X or UML, just click and run. > We are all capable of setting up Xvfb here, but most users are not, which > is why they download ready-made images. > It would also make it a lot easier to focus on writing a management UI, > hell if there isn't one shortly after, I'll do one myself! > Think of a UML browser image (running IE via wine in a limited image with > just X + wine + IE - I would much prefer that to having wine+IE installed > locally), testing framebuffer apps like gtk-fb/cairo-fb without risking > your dev environment, etc... > > Antoine ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ User-mode-linux-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/user-mode-linux-devel
