Hi Jeff,

I think the purpose of this tool it to allow users play with the memory
configurations without needing to actually deploy the Flink cluster or even
have a job. For sanity checks, we currently have them in the start-up
scripts (for standalone clusters) and resource managers (on K8s/Yarn/Mesos).

I think it makes sense do the checks earlier, i.e. on the client side. But
I'm not sure if JobListener is the right place. IIUC, JobListener is
invoked before submitting a specific job, while the mentioned checks
validate Flink's cluster level configurations. It might be okay for a job
cluster, but does not cover the scenarios of session clusters.

Thank you~

Xintong Song



On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:03 PM Yangze Guo <karma...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for your feedbacks, @Xintong and @Jeff.
>
> @Jeff
> I think it would always be good to leverage exist logic in Flink, such
> as JobListener. However, this calculator does not only target to check
> the conflict, it also targets to provide the calculating result to
> user before the job is actually deployed in case there is any
> unexpected configuration. It's a good point that we need to parse the
> dynamic configs. I prefer to parse the dynamic configs and cli
> commands in bash instead of adding hook in JobListener.
>
> Best,
> Yangze Guo
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:32 AM Jeff Zhang <zjf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Yangze,
> >
> > Does this tool just parse the configuration in flink-conf.yaml ?  Maybe
> it could be done in JobListener [1] (we should enhance it via adding hook
> before job submission), so that it could all the cases (e.g. parameters
> coming from command line)
> >
> > [1]
> https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/master/flink-core/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/core/execution/JobListener.java#L35
> >
> >
> > Yangze Guo <karma...@gmail.com> 于2020年3月30日周一 上午9:40写道:
> >>
> >> Hi, Yun,
> >>
> >> I'm sorry that it currently could not handle it. But I think it is a
> >> really good idea and that feature would be added to the next version.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Yangze Guo
> >>
> >> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:21 AM Yun Tang <myas...@live.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Very interesting and convenient tool, just a quick question: could
> this tool also handle deployment cluster commands like "-tm" mixed with
> configuration in `flink-conf.yaml` ?
> >> >
> >> > Best
> >> > Yun Tang
> >> > ________________________________
> >> > From: Yangze Guo <karma...@gmail.com>
> >> > Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 18:00
> >> > To: user <u...@flink.apache.org>; user-zh@flink.apache.org <
> user-zh@flink.apache.org>
> >> > Subject: [Third-party Tool] Flink memory calculator
> >> >
> >> > Hi, there.
> >> >
> >> > In release-1.10, the memory setup of task managers has changed a lot.
> >> > I would like to provide here a third-party tool to simulate and get
> >> > the calculation result of Flink's memory configuration.
> >> >
> >> >  Although there is already a detailed setup guide[1] and migration
> >> > guide[2] officially, the calculator could further allow users to:
> >> > - Verify if there is any conflict in their configuration. The
> >> > calculator is more lightweight than starting a Flink cluster,
> >> > especially when running Flink on Yarn/Kubernetes. User could make sure
> >> > their configuration is correct locally before deploying it to external
> >> > resource managers.
> >> > - Get all of the memory configurations before deploying. User may set
> >> > taskmanager.memory.task.heap.size and taskmanager.memory.managed.size.
> >> > But they also want to know the total memory consumption of Flink. With
> >> > this tool, users could get all of the memory configurations they are
> >> > interested in. If anything is unexpected, they would not need to
> >> > re-deploy a Flink cluster.
> >> >
> >> > The repo link of this tool is
> >> > https://github.com/KarmaGYZ/flink-memory-calculator. It reuses the
> >> > BashJavaUtils.jar of Flink and ensures the calculation result is
> >> > exactly the same as your Flink dist. For more details, please take a
> >> > look at the README.
> >> >
> >> > Any feedback or suggestion is welcomed!
> >> >
> >> > [1]
> https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-master/ops/memory/mem_setup.html
> >> > [2]
> https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-master/ops/memory/mem_migration.html
> >> >
> >> > Best,
> >> > Yangze Guo
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards
> >
> > Jeff Zhang
>

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