Hi all,

@Ran When I created this discussion thread, the latest available version of
Scala 2.12 was 2.12.15. I don't see 2.12.16 being released yet, only
discussed. I did read that they were planning it in the last couple of
weeks but haven't seen any progress since. Do you know more about the
timeline?

I would also like to make a final call towards Scala users to provide their
input in the next 72 hours. Else, I'll open up a voting thread to make the
upgrade.

Best regards,

Martijn

Op vr 20 mei 2022 om 14:10 schreef Ran Tao <chucheng...@gmail.com>:

> Got it. But I think the runtime java environment e.g.  jdk11 env may cannot
> optimize these scala lower bytecode very well.  However currently no direct
> report show this problem. hah~
>
> Chesnay Schepler <ches...@apache.org>于2022年5月20日 周五19:53写道:
>
> > It's not necessarily required that the scala byte code matches the
> > version of the java byte code.
> >
> > By and large such inconsistencies are inevitable w.r.t. external
> libraries.
> >
> > On 20/05/2022 12:23, Ran Tao wrote:
> > > Hi, Martijn. Even if we upgrade scala to 2.12.15 to support Java17, it
> > just
> > > fix the compilation of FLINK-25000
> > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-25000> .  There is
> another
> > > problem[1] that Scala <=2.13 can't generate jvm11 or higher bytecode
> > > version. The flink project target class bytecode version is
> inconsistent
> > > between scala and java source.
> > > If we decide to upgrade scala version, how aboout scala 2.12.16, as i
> > know
> > > from scala community, the 2.12.16 will backport 2.13 functionilies like
> > > jvm11,jvm17 target jvm class support.
> > >
> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-27549
> > >
> > > Martijn Visser <martijnvis...@apache.org> 于2022年5月20日周五 16:37写道:
> > >
> > >> Hi everyone,
> > >>
> > >> I would like to get some opinions from our Scala users, therefore I'm
> > also
> > >> looping in the user mailing list.
> > >>
> > >> Flink currently is tied to Scala 2.12.7. As outlined in FLINK-12461
> [1]
> > >> there is a binary incompatibility introduced by Scala 2.12.8, which
> > >> currently limits Flink from upgrading to a later Scala 2.12 version.
> > >> According to the Scala 2.12.8 release notes, "The fix is not binary
> > >> compatible: the 2.12.8 compiler omits certain methods that are
> > generated by
> > >> earlier 2.12 compilers. However, we believe that these methods are
> never
> > >> used and existing compiled code will continue to work"
> > >>
> > >> We could still consider upgrading to a later Scala 2.12 version, the
> > latest
> > >> one currently being 2.12.15. Next to any benefits that are introduced
> in
> > >> the newer Scala versions, it would also resolve a blocker for Flink to
> > add
> > >> support for Java 17 [2].
> > >>
> > >> My question to Scala users of Flink and others who have an opinion on
> > this:
> > >> * Has any of you already manually compiled Flink with Scala 2.12.8 or
> > >> later?
> > >> * If so, have you experienced any problems with checkpoint and/or
> > savepoint
> > >> incompatibility?
> > >> * Would you prefer Flink breaking binary compatibility by upgrading
> to a
> > >> later Scala 2.12 version or would you prefer Flink to stick with Scala
> > >> 2.12.7?
> > >>
> > >> Note: I know there are also questions about Scala 2.13 and Scala 3
> > support
> > >> in Flink; I think that deserves its own discussion thread.
> > >>
> > >> Best regards,
> > >>
> > >> Martijn Visser
> > >> https://twitter.com/MartijnVisser82
> > >> https://github.com/MartijnVisser
> > >>
> > >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-12461
> > >> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-25000
> > >>
> > >
> >
> > --
> Best,
> Ran Tao
>

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