I added the script as `benchmark.py` in my original post. Maybe it got
filtered somewhere, but
https://lists.apache.org/api/email.lua?attachment=true&id=r2a7b4fe367184aabfb335fe0a5dc1d2a871ed52d51047b8130bf1fb5@%3Cuser.arrow.apache.org%3E&file=133b9b7a2693cd02fd841cee58b2bfab059f22f17d377df0c62c573d5aa09fb3
might be a stable link.

So, interestingly, I am reproducing my own findings with your script. The
tall table takes about 0.8s to load (as you also found), but the wide one
takes 6.4s. I'm surprised you see ~=0.8s for the wide read as well.
Throughout both my own benchmarks and yours, reading a wide one was always
significantly slower, on different machines and Windows/Linux - and even
across different parquet implementations (Arrow's <-> fastparquet).

On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 7:11 PM Weston Pace <[email protected]> wrote:

> The short answer is no, there is nothing "pathological" about parquet,
> it should be more or less as suited for wide columns as arrow's IPC
> format.  Both formats will require additional metadata when there are
> more columns and compressibility may differ (although .arrows data is
> often uncompressed).
>
> Can you provide your test script?  I don't get quite the same results.
> For my test I created two tables, one that was 10,000 columns by 8,000
> rows and one that was 80,000,000 rows in 1 column.  There is simply
> more metadata when you have 10k rows and less opportunity for
> compression.  As a result the file sizes were 611M for the tall and
> 739M for the wide so the wide requires about 20% more data.  Reading
> times (hot-in-cache reads) were ~.73s for the tall and ~.84s for the
> wide and so the wide takes about 15% more time to read.  This seems
> about right to me.
>
> ## Writing script
>
> import pyarrow as pa
> import pyarrow.parquet as pq
> import numpy as np
>
> TALL_ROWS = 80_000_000
> TALL_COLS = 1
> WIDE_ROWS = 8_000
> WIDE_COLS = 10_000
>
> tall_data = np.random.rand(TALL_COLS, TALL_ROWS)
> wide_data = np.random.rand(WIDE_COLS, WIDE_ROWS)
>
> tall_table = pa.Table.from_arrays([tall_data[0]], names=["values"])
> pq.write_table(tall_table, '/tmp/tall.pq')
>
> wide_names = [f'f{i}' for i in range(WIDE_COLS)]
> wide_table = pa.Table.from_arrays(wide_data, names=wide_names)
> pq.write_table(wide_table, '/tmp/wide.pq')
>
> ## Reading script
>
> import pyarrow.parquet as pq
>
> table = pq.read_table('/tmp/tall.pq')
> print(table.num_rows)
> print(table.num_columns)
>
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 6:23 AM Martin Percossi <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > An alternative representation would be to have a single settlement price
> column, and add a stock_id column. Instead of a single row for each time
> step, you would now have, say, 10K rows - one for each stock.
> >
> > I think this will yield better performance.
> >
> > On Tue, 13 Jul 2021, 18:12 Joris Peeters, <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Sending to user@arrow, as that appears the best place for parquet
> questions atm, but feel free to redirect me.
> >>
> >> My objective is to store financial data in Parquet files, and read it
> out fast.
> >> The columns represent stocks (~= 10,000 or so), and each row is a date
> (~= 8000, e.g. 30 years). Values are e.g. settlement prices. I might want
> to use short row groups of e.g. a year each, for quickly getting to smaller
> date ranges, or query for a subset of columns (stocks).
> >>
> >> The appeal of parquet is that I could store all of this stuff in one
> file, and use the row-groups + column-select for slicing, rather than have
> a ton of smaller files etc. Would also integrate well with various ML tech.
> >>
> >> When doing some basic performance testing, with random data, I noticed
> that the performance for tables with many columns seems fairly poor. I've
> attached a little benchmark script - see output at the bottom.
> >>
> >> Stylised conslusions,
> >> - Reading/writing a "tall" (nrows >> ncols) dataframe is much more
> performant than a "wide" dataframe.
> >> - with the Arrow format (as opposed to parquet), the difference is much
> smaller.
> >> - Similar results on Windows & Linux, and for Arrow's parquet vs
> fastparquet.
> >>
> >> Is there something pathological about the parquet format that manifests
> in this regime, or is it rather that the code might not have been optimised
> for this? Aware that ncols >> nrows is not ideal, but was hoping for less
> of a cliff.
> >>
> >> Happy to dig in, but polling experts first.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> -J
> >>
> >> >python benchmark.py
> >> 2021-07-13 16:31:54.786 INFO     Writing parquet to
> C:\Users\jpeeter\AppData\Local\Temp\tmpstgfosrp\example_tall_apq.pq [Arrow]
> >> 2021-07-13 16:31:55.123 INFO     Written.
> >> 2021-07-13 16:31:55.123 INFO     Writing parquet to
> C:\Users\jpeeter\AppData\Local\Temp\tmpstgfosrp\example_wide_apq.pq [Arrow]
> >> 2021-07-13 16:31:57.155 INFO     Written.
> >> 2021-07-13 16:31:57.155 INFO     Writing parquet to
> C:\Users\jpeeter\AppData\Local\Temp\tmpstgfosrp\example_tall_fpq.pq
> [FastParquet]
> >> 2021-07-13 16:31:57.789 INFO     Written.
> >> 2021-07-13 16:31:57.790 INFO     Writing parquet to
> C:\Users\jpeeter\AppData\Local\Temp\tmpstgfosrp\example_wide_fpq.pq
> [FastParquet]
> >> 2021-07-13 16:32:03.613 INFO     Written.
> >> 2021-07-13 16:32:03.613 INFO     Reading parquet from
> C:\Users\jpeeter\AppData\Local\Temp\tmpstgfosrp\example_tall_apq.pq [Arrow]
> >> 2021-07-13 16:32:03.890 INFO     Read.
> >> 2021-07-13 16:32:03.899 INFO     Reading parquet from
> C:\Users\jpeeter\AppData\Local\Temp\tmpstgfosrp\example_wide_apq.pq [Arrow]
> >> 2021-07-13 16:32:08.727 INFO     Read.
> >> 2021-07-13 16:32:08.737 INFO     Reading parquet from
> C:\Users\jpeeter\AppData\Local\Temp\tmpstgfosrp\example_tall_apq.pq
> [FastParquet]
> >> 2021-07-13 16:32:08.983 INFO     Read.
> >> 2021-07-13 16:32:08.991 INFO     Reading parquet from
> C:\Users\jpeeter\AppData\Local\Temp\tmpstgfosrp\example_wide_apq.pq
> [FastParquet]
> >> 2021-07-13 16:32:11.580 INFO     Read.
> >> 2021-07-13 16:32:11.589 INFO     Writing Arrow to
> C:\Users\jpeeter\AppData\Local\Temp\tmpstgfosrp\example_wide.arrows
> >> 2021-07-13 16:32:13.057 INFO     Arrow written.
> >> 2021-07-13 16:32:13.078 INFO     Writing Arrow to
> C:\Users\jpeeter\AppData\Local\Temp\tmpstgfosrp\example_tall.arrows
> >> 2021-07-13 16:32:13.425 INFO     Arrow written.
> >> 2021-07-13 16:32:13.434 INFO     Reading Arrow from
> C:\Users\jpeeter\AppData\Local\Temp\tmpstgfosrp\example_wide.arrows
> >> 2021-07-13 16:32:13.620 INFO     Read.
> >> 2021-07-13 16:32:13.637 INFO     Reading Arrow from
> C:\Users\jpeeter\AppData\Local\Temp\tmpstgfosrp\example_tall.arrows
> >> 2021-07-13 16:32:13.711 INFO     Read.
> >>
> >>
>

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