Dan,

Yeah, it’s setting it to the ingestion time. I will look into KafkaIO, as it 
looks to provide exactly the functionality I want. I was wondering how to set 
the timestamp correctly, at the source. Thank you for your help!

David

> On Jul 7, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Dan Halperin <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> In Beam pipelines, the event time is initially set on the source. Downstream 
> code can make an event *later* just fine, but, making it *earlier* might move 
> it before the current watermark. This would effective tur data that we 
> believe is on-time into late data, and would in general be very bad! Allowed 
> lateness is a feature that lets you move data earlier by a fixed amount, so 
> if you have a tight bound on the time set by the source, this can sometimes 
> help. But it's generally discouraged in favor of proper timestamps in the 
> first place.
> 
> My guess is that UnboundedFlinkSource is using the *processing time*, aka 
> current time when the element is received, rather than any event time 
> provided by the element. It might be possible using that source to provide 
> the element time.
> 
> Alternately, I think you should be using KafkaIO and setting the event time 
> there using withTimestampFn: 
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-beam/blob/master/sdks/java/io/kafka/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/sdk/io/kafka/KafkaIO.java#L136
>  
> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-beam/blob/master/sdks/java/io/kafka/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/sdk/io/kafka/KafkaIO.java#L136>
> 
> This way the elements will come into the system from Kafka with good 
> timestamps, and you don't need a downstream DoFn to transport them back in 
> time.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dan
> 
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 4:15 PM, amir bahmanyari <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Hi David,
> I am doing pretty much the same thing  using Beam KafkaIO.
> For the simple thing I am doing, its working as expected.
> Can you provide the code how you are invoking/receiving from Kafka pls?
> Cheers
> 
> 
> From: David Desberg <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
> Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 12:54 PM
> Subject: Event time processing with Flink runner and Kafka source
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I’m struggling to get a basic Beam application setup, windowed based upon 
> event time. I’m reading from an UnboundedFlinkSource of a FlinkKafkaConsumer 
> to begin my pipeline. To set up event time processing, I applied a DoFn 
> transformation (via ParDo) that calls ProcessContext.outputWithTimestamp 
> using a timestamp extracted from each Kafka message. However, this results in 
> an exception telling me to override getAllowedTimestampSkew, since evidently 
> the messages are already timestamped and I am moving these timestamps back in 
> time, but only shifting to the future is allowed. getAllowedTimestampSkew, 
> however, is deprecated, and if I do override it and allow skew, the windowing 
> I am applying later in the pipeline fails. I decided to backtrack and look at 
> how the timestamps are even being assigned initially, since the Flink source 
> has no concept of the structure of my messages and thus shouldn’t know how to 
> assign any time at all. I found that it turns out that the pipeline runner 
> marks each incoming message with ingestion time, in a manner that cannot be 
> overridden/is not configurable (see 
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-beam/blob/master/runners/flink/runner/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/runners/flink/translation/FlinkStreamingTransformTranslators.java#L273
>  
> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-beam/blob/master/runners/flink/runner/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/runners/flink/translation/FlinkStreamingTransformTranslators.java#L273>)
> 
> Why is this the case? Since part of the point of Beam is to allow event-time 
> processing, I’m sure I’m missing something here. How can I correctly ingest 
> message from Kafka and stamp them with event time, rather than ingestion 
> time? 
> 
> 
> 

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