Hi Marc, Ambari is only a part of the Bigtop distribution, so the project is not dead :)
Luca On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 1:28 PM Marc Hoppins <[email protected]> wrote: > > The latest from Ambari is that the project has not been moved to 'attic'. I > assume this means that further development will not happen. How will this > affect BIGTOP development, is this project also 'dead'? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Luca Toscano <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2022 4:40 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Some concerns - bigtop 3.0.0 > > EXTERNAL > > Hi Marc! > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 1:17 PM Marc Hoppins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > After Jan31 2022, Docker is not free for businesses with either >=250 > > employees or >=$10M of business. This creates a bit of a problem with > > trying to build/develop open source software now reliant on paid > > dependencies. > > My understanding is that Docker Engine will stay free, meanwhile for big > organizations Docker Desktop will introduce a new paid license. It is not > ideal, Windows and Mac users basically need Docker Desktop to rebuild > packages, meanwhile Linux users will likely keep going without problems[1]. > Docker Desktop seems to remain free for open-source communities and personal > use, that is a good sign. On the practical side, building Apache Bigtop > packages should be possible in most cases without any change, but I agree > that the true meaning of open-source tool/software may clash with the concept > of specific service agreements (like paying in certain situations). For the > moment there seems to be no rush to move away from Docker, but we should keep > an eye on how things evolve and possibly explore other possibilities. > This is my understanding, I may miss something or be very wrong, in case let > me know :) > > > The bigtop jira page contains a reference to dropping support for Ubuntu > > 16.04. The build.gradle file makes no mention of any Ubuntu other than > > 16.04. > > The docs in build.gradle are definitely old, we should update them, I opened > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BIGTOP-3633 to track the problem. > > > The docs state “You CANNOT use root to complete the build…” but I tried a > > regular user build (./gradlew hadoop-pkg-ind -POS=ubuntu-20.04) and it > > failed almost immediately. > > The docs that you mention is > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/BIGTOP/Quickstart+Guide%3A+Bigtop+Integration+Test+Framework+2.0 > right (just to be on the same page). It probably needs an update as well :) > > > Bigtop-ambari-mpack – which resolves down to bgtp-ambari-mpack (I think > > from Matt Andruff), and then, further down the structure, > > src/main/resources/stacks/BGTP/1.0/repos, seems to be poking about at > > http://repos.bigtop.apache.org/releases/1.5.0/ubuntu/18.04. Is this a > > workaround somehow for 20.04? > > Very ignorant about mpack, I'll let others answer! > > Thanks a lot for the report, > > Luca > > -- > [1] https://docs.docker.com/engine/install/binaries/ > [2] https://www.docker.com/pricing
