I was wrong on this scenario and I'll explain where I was incorrect. Hints are stored for a downed node but they don't count towards meeting a consistency level. Let's take 2 scenarios:
RF=6, Nodes=10 If you READ/WRITE with CL.QUORUM you will need 4 alive nodes if one is down it will still have 4 active replicas to write to, one of these will store a hint and update the downed node when it comes back. RF=2, Nodes=3 If you READ/WRITE with CL.QUORUM you need 2 live nodes. If one of these 2 are down you can't meet the QUORUM level so the write will fail. In your scenario your best bet is to update to RF=3, then any two nodes will accept QUORUM Sorry for the confusion, -Jake On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 12:26 PM, David Boxenhorn <da...@lookin2.com> wrote: > Thank you, Jake. It does... except that in another context you told me: > > Hints only happen when a node is unavailable and you are writing with > CL.ANY > If you never write with CL.ANY then you can turn off hinted handoff. > > How do I reconcile this? > > > On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Jake Luciani <jak...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> If you read/write data with quorum then you can safely take a node down in >> this scenario. Subsequent writes will use hinted handoff to be passed to >> the node when it comes back up. >> >> More info is here: http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/HintedHandoff >> >> Does that answer your question? >> >> -Jake >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Ran Tavory <ran...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> to me it makes sense that if hinted handoff is off then cassandra cannot >>> satisfy 2 out of every 3rd writes writes when one of the nodes is down since >>> this node is the designated node of 2/3 writes. >>> But I don't remember reading this somewhere. Does hinted handoff affect >>> David's situation? >>> (David, did you disable HH in your storage-config? >>> <HintedHandoffEnabled>false</HintedHandoffEnabled>) >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 4:32 PM, David Boxenhorn <da...@lookin2.com>wrote: >>> >>>> For the vast majority of my data usage eventual consistency is fine >>>> (i.e. CL=ONE) but I have a small amount of critical data for which I read >>>> and write using CL=QUORUM. >>>> >>>> If I have a cluster with 3 nodes and RF=2, and CL=QUORUM does that mean >>>> that a value can be read from or written to any 2 nodes, or does it have to >>>> be the particular 2 nodes that store the data? If it is the particular 2 >>>> nodes that store the data, that means that I can't even take down one node, >>>> since it will be the mandatory 2nd node for 1/3 of my data... >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> /Ran >>> >>> >> >
