Eric,
My tone changed as I studied in more detail the thread. He begin with a well-intended but ill-advised inquiry, very public inquiry at that which itself was problematic. It’s not a board member’s place to push their weight around like that. That’s board member training 101. Not his job. He stepped in it. Go through staff. Very poorly handled. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt that he meant well. We have a problem. It must be fixed. As to getting caught in the middle I will let you ponder that. I have to help get Cassandra out of Document Hell!!! Kenneth Brotman From: Eric Plowe [mailto:eric.pl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 1:14 PM To: user@cassandra.apache.org Subject: Re: Gathering / Curating / Organizing Cassandra Best Practices & Patterns Kenneth, How did you get "caught in the middle" of this "stuff"? You are the one bringing it up? Also, your tone switched between calling Chris a "well intended ASF" board member, to calling him an "idiot". He asked a perfectly reasonable question, and then other questions followed as a result. If you want to contribute to the community, please start by being respectful to all members of the community. Regards, Eric Plowe On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 12:35 PM Kenneth Brotman <kenbrot...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: I got caught in the middle of this stuff. I feel for everyone. I said my two cents. I had to vent. I’m back to concentrating on helping the group. Kenneth Brotman From: Eric Evans [mailto:john.eric.ev...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 9:16 AM To: user@cassandra.apache.org Subject: Re: Gathering / Curating / Organizing Cassandra Best Practices & Patterns On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 8:45 AM, Kenneth Brotman <kenbrot...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: Chris Mattmann acted without authority and completely improperly as an Apache Software Foundation board member as a board member on their own has no authority. Their authority is to participate and vote at board meetings. They are not allowed to transact business, they are not supposed to force themselves on anyone or order anyone around. The one that was acting controlling was this idiot board member that has caused this situation between DataStax and the rest of our community. Furthermore, when he instructed Cassandra legend Jonathan Ellis, the Cassandra PMC Chair to include certain information in a report to the Apache Software Foundation board that escalated the matter to something that was before the board. I am not an attorney and this should not be taken as legal advice! It is clear to me as one someone who is experienced and trained as a board member that Chris Mattmann and the ASF itself probably will find themselves in court over this. I think a lot of folks should raise this matter with their legal counsel. What happened is not trivial. It is news worthy. I suggest people talk to the media about this story Ask them to investigate and report the story. Is APC interfering with other communities? Kenneth, I really think you need to pump the brakes here. You're leveling some pretty serious accusations, and have now resorted to personal attacks; This is not constructive. From: Kenneth Brotman [mailto:kenbrot...@yahoo.com.INVALID] Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 3:29 PM To: user@cassandra.apache.org Subject: RE: Gathering / Curating / Organizing Cassandra Best Practices & Patterns Importance: High If you read the email message, the first link below, you’ll see that it’s a well intending Apache Foundation board member who could not grasp how our community functioned. Apache Foundation messed up our community by the way they handled a routine inquiry, leaving no option for DataStax but to seek legal counsel. I’ve been there. Your own legal counsel deal the final blow. They tell you all communication has to go through them. They tell you there has to be clear separation. They say you have to take their advice or they will not keep defending you and you will not any personal protection. Anyone can be sued and you will be liable for defending yourself. Sound familiar! Everyone kept saying that everything was good. That the community, our community liked the way things worked. I call on Apache Foundation to reach out to DataStax and fix the mess forthwith! Report openly on your efforts. You can fix your mess Apache Foundation. This email says it all. A total miscall: https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@cassandra.apache.org/msg09090.html. And the guy has a PhD! Kenneth Brotman From: Kenneth Brotman [mailto:kenbrot...@yahoo.com.INVALID] Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 12:58 PM To: user@cassandra.apache.org Subject: RE: Gathering / Curating / Organizing Cassandra Best Practices & Patterns Jon, This is considered the start of the problem: https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@cassandra.apache.org/msg09050.html That’s according to this well sourced article called “Fear of Staxit: What next for ASF’s Cassandra as biggest donor cuts back” https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/11/14/datastax_versus_asf_staxeit/ <https://www.theregisterco.uk/2016/11/14/datastax_versus_asf_staxeit/> I am one of the people who didn’t know the history and is now as this article describes, caught between “A Rock and a hard place…: http://www.zdnet.com/article/a-rock-and-a-hard-place-between-scylladb-and-cassandra/ I bet it’s been painful for everyone. It’s really said. Kenneth Brotman -- Eric Evans john.eric.ev...@gmail.com