I meant migrating to gosspsnitch during adding new dc. New dc will be empty so 
all the data will be streamed based on snitch property chosen

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> On Jun 7, 2018, at 12:23 PM, Jeff Jirsa <jji...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I don't know about "new snitch protocol" (there is no snitch protocol), but 
> in the case of ec2snitch and gossipingpropertyfilesnitch (do not extrapolate 
> this to any other combination), you can switch them 1:1 before the move, and 
> everything should be fine, as long as care is taken to make the property file 
> match the aws region/az discovered.
> 
> If there were other snitches involved (especially SimpleSnitch), things get 
> much more complicated. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 9:18 AM, Nitan Kainth <nitankai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Jeff, 
>> 
>> In this case, if Riccardo is adding new DC, then he can pickup new snitch 
>> protocol right?
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 12:15 PM, Jeff Jirsa <jji...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 9:12 AM, Nitan Kainth <nitankai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Riccardo,
>>>> 
>>>> Simplest method can be is to add VPC as an additional datacenter to 
>>>> existing cluster; once New DC has synced up all data, just switch over 
>>>> your application. Only caveat is that there should be enough network 
>>>> bandwidth between EC2 and VPC.
>>>> 
>>>> Horizontal scaling will help to some extent. 
>>>> 
>>>> Changing snitch will cause data movement but for new DC, I believe you can 
>>>> chose. Leaving others comment.
>>> 
>>> If you change the snitch, and the data ownership changes, you run the risk 
>>> of violating at least consistency guarantees, if not outright losing data.
>>> 
>>> Changing the snitch is only something you should attempt if you understand 
>>> the implications. Cassandra does NOT re-stream data to the right places 
>>> if/when you change a snitch. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> With EBS, use right instance where IOPs are as high as possible. 
>>>> Generally, SSDs IOPs are 75K; what is best for you depends on workload. I 
>>>> have seen 20K IOPs supporting production loads in reasonable cluster.
>>> 
>>> This is very much workload dependent. I know of people running thousands of 
>>> nodes / petabytes of EBS on 4T GP2 volumes which provide 10k iops, and they 
>>> RARELY go above 1k iops during normal use patterns.
>>> 
>>> -  Jeff
>>> 
>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 6:20 AM, Riccardo Ferrari <ferra...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Dear list,
>>>>> 
>>>>> We have a small cluster on AWS EC2-Classic and we are planning to move it 
>>>>> to a VPC. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know this has been discussed few times already including here:
>>>>> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/cassandra-user/201406.mbox/%3cca+vsrlopop7th8nx20aoz3as75g2jrjm3ryx119deklynhq...@mail.gmail.com%3E
>>>>>  - Thanks Alain RODRIGUEZ!
>>>>> or here:
>>>>> http://grokbase.com/t/cassandra/user/1498y74hn7/moving-cassandra-from-ec2-classic-into-vpc
>>>>>  - Thanks Ben Bromhead!
>>>>> 
>>>>> However I can't find anyone suggesting ClassicLink to perform such 
>>>>> migration, maybe because was recent addition compared to those posts. So 
>>>>> current status is:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3 nodes : m1.xlarge (ephemeral storage)
>>>>> Cassandra 3.0.8
>>>>> Few keyspaces with {'class': 'SimpleStrategy', 'replication_factor': '3'}
>>>>> endpoint_snitch: Ec2Snitch
>>>>> connectivity on private ips (local_address, rpc_address, no 
>>>>> broadcast_address)
>>>>> average load pretty high (we need to scale up)
>>>>> vnodes
>>>>> My idea is to migrate:
>>>>> Add intances on to the existing cluster (1 by 1):
>>>>> Same cassandra version
>>>>> Same cluster name
>>>>> Seed list from ec2 classic list
>>>>> Run repair and cleanup
>>>>> Update seed list (cassandar config and services)
>>>>> Decommision old instances (1 by 1)
>>>>> Run repair and cleanup again
>>>>> 
>>>>> Question time:
>>>>> What is the best approach, in 2018, for migrating a cluster from 
>>>>> EC2Classic to VPC with 0 downtime?
>>>>> Should we scale up before or during the migration? I know I should expect 
>>>>> some load from data streaming, at the same time we're adding capacity.
>>>>> We would like to migrato to GossipingPropertyFileSnitch, can we mix them?
>>>>> Any gothca?
>>>>> We are thinking to move to EBS (due to cluster size and snapshotting 
>>>>> caoabilities). Any hardware reccomendation?
>>>>> Any suggestion is much appreciated!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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