Schema won’t be transferred cross-majors

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Jeff Jirsa


> On Dec 4, 2018, at 10:51 PM, Shravan R <skr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Jeff. I tried to bootstrap a 3.x node to a partially upgraded cluster 
> (2.1.9 + 3.x) and I was not able to do so. The schema never settled. 
> 
> How does the below approach sound like?
> Update the software binary on all nodes to use cassandra-3.x upon a restart.
> Restart all nodes in a rolling fashion
> Run nodetool upgradesstables in a rolling fashion
> 
> Is there a risk on pending nodetool upgradesstables? 
> 
>> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 2:12 AM Jeff Jirsa <jji...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 2, 2018, at 12:40 PM, Shravan R <skr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Marc/Dimitry/Jon - greatly appreciate your feedback. I will look into the 
>>> version part that you suggested. The reason to go direct to 3.x is to take 
>>> a bi leap and reduce overall effort to upgrade a large cluster (development 
>>> included). 
>>> 
>>> I have these questions from my original post. Appreciate if you could shed 
>>> some light and point me in the right direction.
>>> 
>>> 1) How do deal with decommissioning a 2.1.9 node in a partially upgraded 
>>> cluster?
>> 
>> If any of the replicas have already upgraded, which is almost guaranteed if 
>> you’re using vnodes, It’s hard / you don’t. You’d basically upgrade 
>> everything else and then deal with it. If a host fails mid upgrade you’ll 
>> likely have some period of unavailables while you bounce the replicas to 
>> finish, then you can decom
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 2) How to bootstrap a 3.x node to a partially upgraded cluster? 
>> 
>> This may work fine, but test it because I’m not certain. It should be able 
>> to read the 2.1 and 3.0 sstables that’ll stream so it’ll just work
>> 
>>> 3) Is there an alternative approach to the upgrade large clusters. i.e 
>>> instead of going through nodetool upgradesstables on each node in rolling 
>>> fashion
>> 
>> Bounce them all as quickly as is practical, do the upgradesstables after the 
>> bounces complete
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 1:03 PM Jonathan Haddad <j...@jonhaddad.com> wrote:
>>>> Dmitry is right. Generally speaking always go with the latest bug fix 
>>>> release. 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 10:14 AM Dmitry Saprykin 
>>>>> <saprykin.dmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> See more here 
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/plugins/servlet/mobile#issue/CASSANDRA-13004
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 1:02 PM Dmitry Saprykin 
>>>>>> <saprykin.dmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Even more, 3.0.9 is a terrible target choice by itself. It has a nasty 
>>>>>> bug corrupting sstables on alter.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 11:55 AM Marc Selwan <marc.sel...@datastax.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Shravan, 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Did you upgrade Apache Cassandra 2.1.9 to the latest patch release 
>>>>>>> before doing the major upgrade? It's generally favorable to go to the 
>>>>>>> latest patch release as often times they include fixes that smooth over 
>>>>>>> the upgrade process. There are hundreds of bug fixes between 2.1.9 and 
>>>>>>> 2.1.20 (current version) 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Marc
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 3:13 PM Shravan R <skr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I am planning to upgrade Apache Cassandra 2.1.9 to Apache 
>>>>>>>> Cassandra-3.0.9. I came up with the version based on [1]. I followed 
>>>>>>>> upgrade steps as in [2]. I was testing the same in the lab and 
>>>>>>>> encountered issues (streaming just fails and hangs for ever) with 
>>>>>>>> bootstrapping a 3.0.9 node on a partially upgraded cluster. [50% of 
>>>>>>>> nodes on 2.1.9 and 50% on 3.0.9]. The production cluster that I am 
>>>>>>>> supporting is pretty large and I am anticipating to end up in a 
>>>>>>>> situation like this (Hope not) and would like to be prepared.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 1) How do deal with decommissioning a 2.1.9 node in a partially 
>>>>>>>> upgraded cluster?
>>>>>>>> 2) How to bootstrap a 3.x node to a partially upgraded cluster? 
>>>>>>>> 3) Is there an alternative approach to the upgrade large clusters. i.e 
>>>>>>>> instead of going through nodetool upgradesstables on each node in 
>>>>>>>> rolling fashion
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As per [1] the general restriction is to avoid decommissioning or 
>>>>>>>> adding nodes but in reality there can be failures or maintenance that 
>>>>>>>> warrants us to do so. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Please point me in the right direction.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Shravan
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [1] 
>>>>>>>> https://docs.datastax.com/en/upgrade/doc/upgrade/datastax_enterprise/upgdDSE50.html#upgdDSE50__cstar-version-change
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [2] 
>>>>>>>> https://myopsblog.wordpress.com/2017/12/04/upgrade-cassandra-cluster-from-2-x-to-3-x/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Marc Selwan | DataStax | Product Management | (925) 413-7079 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Jon Haddad
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