Andrus, As the person who characterized Cayenne as next-gen EOF, and who also used EOF I can say that the my statement was meant as a compliment and I also hold EOF in the highest of regards (with the possible 10 year old opinion that the memory management issues were unsatisfactory).
As far as "EOF Clone guy", I would have to say that is a compliment in this context: EOF was one of the first (if not the first) serious cogent ORM's and had a modeling tool to boot. Cayenne has assimilated some of the better core EOF design patterns (that Hibernate has yet to incorporate), so it does seem like apt description (based on similar and best-choice design patterns). To repeat what I said in another email, the original architects originated these ideas back in the 1990's with Steven Jobs at the helm trying to do something with the NeXT project that no one else in the world had ever done. Most people were working in COBAL with monochrome monitors and marveling at how cool multitasking was going to be for the micro computer and that the Commodore 64 was great for home users. Having said that, while the buy who came up with the idea of riding a horse may be historic, so is the guy who comes up with the bridle. Joe PS this was all meant to be complimentary - if I inadvertently insulted anyone I apologize - please no flame emails with ALL-CAPITAL letters, I can't handle being yelled at. :) On Aug 11, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: > > On Aug 9, 2011, at 4:06 PM, Michael Gentry wrote: > >> I'm not sure if Cayenne was created to be a next generation EOF or >> just an open-source ORM that was heavily influenced by the concepts in >> EOF. > > Definitely the later. I was once introduced by a friend to some Apple > engineers at a party during WWDC a few years ago as a "guy who works on an > EOF clone". It sounded offensive :-) > > Andrus >
