Mike,

The docs say to not go too deep with nested contexts, so I don't think that's a 
viable solution.  I'm also not clear what benefit you think this would have 
over the 2 level plan.

Ken

On 3/29/18, 5:39 PM, "Mike Kienenberger" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Instead of having each line as a child context under a parent context,

    parent
    - child1 (line 1)
    - child2 (line 2)
    - child3 (line 3)

    could you have each line processed as a child context of the previous line?

    - child1 (line 1)
    -- child2 (line 2)
    --- child3 (line 3)
    ---- child4 (line 4)

    If you want to "undo" the current line,
    child4.rollbackChangesLocally(); and start on the next line.

    Note that I have not done anything with child contexts, but this would
    be how I'd try to solve it.


    On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 9:29 PM, Ken Anderson <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Hugi,
    >
    > That’s correct - it’s not like we’re just importing a bunch of records.  
Each row in the file could affect the same set of objects.
    >
    > So, we did the child context, but obviously if we created an object in a 
prior child and then saved it to the parent, we won’t be able to easily find it 
in the next child context.  If you get a localObject in your new child context, 
it is “hollow”, so not connected to all the other objects floating around in 
the parent.  We also can’t fire relationships, because those relationships will 
go to the database instead of the parent context.
    >
    > Ken
    >
    >> On Mar 28, 2018, at 7:11 PM, Hugi Thordarson <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> That's exactly what we want to do - save once at the end.  However, we 
have 2 problems:
    >>>
    >>> 1. How do we find the objects that we already created but haven't saved 
yet
    >>
    >> You can go through yur ObjectContext's newObjects() and filter that to 
your liking—pretty much the same as you'd do with EOF.
    >>
    >>> 2. How do we roll back each line if there's an error?  Not a DB error, 
but the logic gets so far, and then determines that there's no way to continue 
so we must skip this line.
    >>
    >> As you tried yourself, I'd use a child context and commit to the parent 
once you're sure everything is in place. Can you explain further what was 
problematic with that (that you need to "access the same objects multiple 
times")? Do you mean that each row of the file is in some way looking at data 
from other rows?
    >>
    >> Cheers,
    >> - hugi
    >>
    >>
    >>>
    >>> Ken
    >>>
    >>> On 3/28/18, 6:07 PM, "John Huss" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>   Well, you could just save once at the end.  Why do you need to save
    >>>   multiple times during the processing?  Validation exceptions and 
Optimistic
    >>>   Locking errors could be handled in the save with some custom logic 
and a
    >>>   retry.
    >>>
    >>>   Or if this isn't a super long process you can use a database 
transaction to
    >>>   allow saving multiple times without actually having that data be 
visible
    >>>   outside of the transaction.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>   On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 6:56 AM Ken Anderson 
<[email protected]>
    >>>   wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> All,
    >>>>
    >>>> We have a process that reads in a file and, for each line, creates or
    >>>> edits objects in the object graph.  We only want to commit to the 
database
    >>>> once at the end.
    >>>>
    >>>> We have a finite set of lines, so memory is not an issue.  We need to 
save
    >>>> only once because saving will actually fire triggers that will start 
doing
    >>>> other things to the database, which will then lead to optimistic lock
    >>>> exceptions for us if we have data that overlaps (which we do).
    >>>>
    >>>> Please don’t suggest we change how the trigger pattern works – it’s a 
big
    >>>> system and we don’t have control over it.
    >>>>
    >>>> So, what we’ve toyed with is using a parent/child context arrangement,
    >>>> where each line is processed in a child, and assuming everything goes 
OK,
    >>>> we commit only to the parent.  This works well as long as we don’t 
need to
    >>>> access the same objects multiple times, but unfortunately, we do.  We 
can
    >>>> reach into the parent context’s unsaved objects, but those objects do 
not
    >>>> have any relationships since they were built in the child context.  
This
    >>>> makes things painful.
    >>>>
    >>>> In EOF, I might consider using a single context and undo, but it 
doesn’t
    >>>> seem like Cayenne has this kind of functionality.
    >>>>
    >>>> Thoughts?  Suggestions?  In EOF, I had once written a layer that
    >>>> intercepted all queries and tried to find the correct object in unsaved
    >>>> objects, but I don’t have nearly enough experience with Cayenne to do 
that.
    >>>>
    >>>> Thanks!
    >>>> Ken
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