Please move discussion of the appropriateness of using jQuery to another thread. Here we should be discussing features and improvements to Futon.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Noah Slater<[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:04:25AM +1000, cinnebar wrote: >> > I don't believe CouchDB depends on jQuery. >> >> > In any case CouchDB by itself does not depend on jQuery. >> >> Perhaps I didnt explain my point well. I mentioned jquery dependency in the >> context of 'Futon improvements'. Futon is the 'in box' app for accessing >> CouchDB in browser and is dependent on jquery. > > So what? > >> Beyond this we think that the effect of better documenting at least the js >> included with CouchDB on installation would be greatly increased usability of >> CouchDB. We do not have this opinion because we are stupid or because we do >> not understand the code. > > How would this objectively improve usability? > >> I myself would welcome the demonstration of an alternative version of Futon >> from either of you that does not require jquery and is as good as or more >> full featured than the Futon that we have . > > Why on earth does it matter what JavaScript libraries Futon uses? > >> At the moment the feature set of Futon is far from useful for the level of >> dev that we are already at. > > Patches welcome then. > >> I mentioned CouchApp only in passing and i realise its dependencies are not >> really relevant to this discussion but it does seem odd to me that the demo >> 'standalone couchapp' in couchdb documentation is 'out of the box' dependent >> on a python module. > > How else would you do it? Bash scripts and curl statements? > > If you're going to be working with CouchDB, you need to do HTTP, and if you're > going to do that in a way that doesn't involve using telnet, you need to use a > library, so that means a language. I'd love to see your other suggestion. > >> At the same time personally i like using py and i like >> using js so calling the CouchApp py module a 'third party tool' in the >> context doesnt seem to make too much sense. > > The whole of CouchApp is third party. > >> ...development of CouchDB will also be aided if this user mailing list >> involved a higher % of informed discussion and lower % 'o crap i cant it to >> work' > > Development of CouchDB or development with CouchDB? > > And what makes you think that your particular needs are more important? > > Thanks, > > -- > Noah Slater, http://tumbolia.org/nslater >
