My 2¢: original node.js logo was unreadable barely anyone even seen it because it was displayed only on main website. New node.js logo shows the truth - rough edges everywhere. Not to say, personally, I find original logo of node.js ugly and meaningless. Meanwhile, CouchDB logo is pretty stylish and meaningful, I mean I even have the same couch at my place. No mater what it will be changed to it will always offend someone; maybe new logo will offend someone quite/smart enough not to care about how logo looks like and care about product itself. -- Andrey Cherkashin Sent with Airmail
On October 28, 2014 at 12:56:10 PM, Robert Kowalski (r...@kowalski.gd) wrote: +1 to change the logo. Thank you Joan for pointing this out - and I also agree with Andy, Lena, Jason & Bryan. I have an interesting side note from changing logos in Open Source Projects: I hang around in the Node.js community for some years, they did change the logo (this is the old one: http://chetansurpur.com/images/blog/2010/10/node-logo.png) and there was a lot of discussion in the node community around that (this is the new one: http://nodejs.org/logo.png). A lot of people really liked the old logo and there was alot of discussion and sad faces about changing the logo. These days nobody wants the old logo back and most people don't even know that there was an old logo. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 8:29 PM, <jus...@lisol.co.uk> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm a new comer to this community and so will be missing a lot of > background ... > > My view is that a logo embodies more than just the graphics and is a > crucial part of the brand image being put out. Therefore, changing a logo > is not something that should be done without considerable thought. > > I would very much agree with Thomas that there may be a case for employing > a professional to come up with an alternative logo based on answers that > the community will them as to what exactly it is the brand should portray. > > Thanks, > Justin > > -----Original Message----- > From: Thomas Lindgren [mailto:u.thomas.lindg...@gmail.com] > Sent: 28 October 2014 08:36 > To: user@couchdb.apache.org > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Improved CouchDB logo > > If you want to change the logo, I recommend doing it the > professional/business way: putting up some money and hiring a good design > firm. They've done it before and have a broader perspective. Basically, let > them ask you the questions about the brand; no design back seat driving > from you; choose among the alternatives they give you, or ask for more. > > Best, > Thomas > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Andy Wenk <andyw...@apache.org> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > first of all thanks to Joan for bringing this up. As Paul stated, if > > someone is feeling attacked we should discuss it. > > > > I have viewed (if not gazed) the logo for several minutes. I can > > understand that someone is seeing a man with a maybe vulgar attitude. > > I personally don't see that. The whole idea combined with the "Relax" > > statement fits perfectly together. > > > > Then I started to ask Luigi, our senior designer, and asked him what > > he sees. He said "a relaxed man on a couch" (he did not know the term > > relax btw.). I asked him why he said "a man". He answered, because > > mostly men are hanging around on a couch like this. > > > > So yes, it is a relaxed man and someone could interpret his attitude > > vulgar or offensive. But it's still a relaxed man with no other > > intention. Nothing more. I am not sure why someone could assume, that > > the logo's meaning or intention should be something else than that. > > > > As a member of this community, I am feeling very responsible to not > > harm anyone. Be it women or men. In this case, I don't see a problem > > personally but I will for sure help to find a solution if we decide to > > change the logo. > > > > First shot for a minimal change: let the man cross his left leg over > > his right leg. Unfortunately this is not simple to do as my colleague > > Luigi noted. It would mean to also change the position of the man and > > maybe the size of the couch. > > > > Cheers > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > On 28 October 2014 08:40, Pedro Narciso García Revington < > > p.reving...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I like the logo and I do not see the reason to change it. > > > > > > 2014-10-28 1:27 GMT+01:00 Joan Touzet <woh...@apache.org>: > > > > > > > At 3 different conferences I've attended in 2014: CloudantCON > > > > 2014, OSCON 2014 and Velocity NYC 2014, I've been approached by > > > > people complaining about the CouchDB logo. The argument is that > > > > the logo looks like a man who is posed in a suggestive way, or as > > > > one person put it, "showing you his crotch and inviting you over." > > > > > > > > These were not lighthearted expressions of concern to me over > > > > drinks - they were heartfelt complaints from people who care about > > > > CouchDB and its image in the open source community. > > > > > > > > I must admit I didn't think it was an issue at first, but like the > > > > saying goes, once you've seen it, you can't un-see it. > > > > > > > > As a reminder here is our current logo: > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/couchdb/supplement/logo/couchdb-logo. > > png > > > > > > > > Or in SVG: > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/couchdb/supplement/logo/couchdb-logo. > > svg > > > > > > > > I'd like to propose improving the logo with a new drawing that > > > > keeps > > the > > > > same theme - red couch, reclining figure in white - but alters the > > > > pose to be a bit less suggestive. Other suggestions are welcome, > > > > naturally, but a redrawn current-style logo probably has the least > objections. > > > > > > > > Of course, if we agree to such a change, I'll need your help. I > > > > can't draw, and I'm sure many of the rest of you can't either. If > > > > you're an artist, and you agree, would you consider posting an > > > > altered logo in reply to this thread that fixes the problem? > > > > > > > > You can find all of the source files (Adobe Illustrator) at: > > > > > > > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/couchdb/supplement/logo/ > > > > > > > > -Joan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Andy Wenk > > Hamburg - Germany > > RockIt! > > > > GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 > > > > https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc > > > >
