> Where should I be listening to hear about when new
> fauxton releases have happened?

We don’t really do releases. We push to the repo, and then people can pull from 
there. 
https://github.com/apache/couchdb-fauxton

Sometimes things break, but we try to fix them right away on the master branch, 
and new commits get merged in a few times each week.

I think when 2.0 arrives, Fauxton will be the default UI. 

Wow. that just hit me that Futon will not be available with 2.0.

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Michelle
*scrambles back to work on Faxuton*



> On Aug 17, 2015, at 6:10 PM, Eli Stevens (Gmail) <wickedg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Michelle,
> 
> Overall, sounds great. I'll reply inline where needed:
> 
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Michelle Phung <michel...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Feedback #2: Default _all_docs page doesn’t show enough relevant information
>>        Fair enough, this is something I think we should default with 
>> include_docs=true, but apparently it breaks some people’s browsers because 
>> the content of the data is extremely large. I’d like to revisit this idea 
>> though.
> 
> IMHO it's less "not enough relevant info" and more "uses far too much
> space for the information it does show." I think that directly cloning
> the futon futon two-column view rendering is a good start, except:
> 
> - Include quotes on keys (as talked about below)
> - Pretty-print the value
> 
> Note that I'm being explicit about showing the *value*; not the *doc*
> when talking about include_docs=true. I could see having there be a
> checkbox to add a 3rd column so that it renders key+id / value / doc,
> but IMO it should default to off for the reasons you mention (having a
> 4k doc repeated 20 times on the page would kinda suck).
> 
> 
>> Feedback #3: Colors
>>        This is sensitive topic, and I learned this when I first started 
>> working in industry a few years ago: don’t question the colors.
>>        And then **definitely, without a doubt** do not use coding skills to 
>> change other peoples colors :)
>> 
>>        I’m glad you mentioned it so I didn’t have to.
>> 
>>        What I’m hearing is that you’d like the text colors to be consistent 
>> across the UI.
>>        And that it’s disorienting to switch background contexts that quickly.
> 
> Yep, exactly. The hamburger being dark while the rest of the UI is
> light is fine.
> 
> 
>> Feedback #4:  There's no obvious way to get to a nicely-rendered document 
>> overview.
>>> —  Could you expand on this? I’m not getting a clear idea of the problem — <
>>        Also RE:
>> 
>>>       I really want to click on the red ID 5d964eab30b5656190b416bff6210b69 
>>> header part;
>> 
>> 
>>        You can double click on the document ‘card’, and it will take you to 
>> the full page editor!
>>        Not very intuitive, but once Kxepal told me it was possible, I love 
>> it, I do the double click all the time now :D
>>        FWIW, I would also like the ability to directly edit the document 
>> ‘card’, from the _all_docs page.
>>        I think that would be neat.
> 
> The discoverability of the double-click handler is low. I don't know
> how to learn that's the case without someone telling me.
> 
> I'm asking for something like the futon doc editor, where it's
> possible to edit the individual document fields one at a time, rather
> than the whole doc. Having to do the whole doc at once is painful when
> the doc is 4k lines long (see my earlier gist).
> 
> 
>> Feedback #8: Query Options
>>        Interesting. I had not considered putting Query Options in the View 
>> Sidebar.
>>        I had a proposal to bring a duplicate button for include_docs=true 
>> option from the tray, and into the top of document cards area. Query Options 
>> can effect different types of calls, but it’s an interesting idea to have it 
>> built into the views sidebar. As I am thinking about this, I am liking the 
>> idea more and more. We could make a component out of it, and use it 
>> everywhere that needs query options.
> 
> Nailing this could be a big enough deal-maker to override my earlier
> deal-breakers.  :)
> 
> 
>> Cloudant has a new team of designers. They are new, and are just learning 
>> about CouchDB/Cloudant. We’ve asked them to take a look at CouchDB and how 
>> it could be better. They are interested in feedback, but for a different 
>> reason from what I’ve asked the mailing list for. I just wanted somethings 
>> to put into my presentation, but I am also very excited that I am getting 
>> this type of in-depth feedback! It’s really refreshing to hear.
> 
> Glad my feedback is "refreshing" and not "pushy."  I manage software
> engineers for my day job, and it can be difficult to remove the
> imperative tone sometimes.
> 
> 
>> I hope I got everything.
>> 
>> Thanks for your thoughts Eli :)
> 
> Any time.  :)  Where should I be listening to hear about when new
> fauxton releases have happened?  I want to make sure I update my local
> install promptly.
> 
> Cheers,
> Eli
> 

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