Hi Encho, >From your description, I feel that there are extra bugs.
About your description: *- Start both job managers* *- Start a batch job in JobManager 1 and let it finish* *The jobgraphs in both Zookeeper and HDFS remained.* Is it necessarily happening every time? In the Standalone cluster, the problems we encountered were sporadic. Thanks, vino. Encho Mishinev <encho.mishi...@gmail.com> 于2018年8月28日周二 下午8:07写道: > Hello Till, > > I spend a few more hours testing and looking at the logs and it seems like > there's a more general problem here. While the two job managers are active > neither of them can properly delete jobgraphs. The above problem I > described comes from the fact that Kubernetes gets JobManager 1 quickly > after I manually kill it, so when I stop the job on JobManager 2 both are > alive. > > I did a very simple test: > > - Start both job managers > - Start a batch job in JobManager 1 and let it finish > The jobgraphs in both Zookeeper and HDFS remained. > > On the other hand if we do: > > - Start only JobManager 1 (again in HA mode) > - Start a batch job and let it finish > The jobgraphs in both Zookeeper and HDFS are deleted fine. > > It seems like the standby manager still leaves some kind of lock on the > jobgraphs. Do you think that's possible? Have you seen a similar problem? > The only logs that appear on the standby manager while waiting are of the > type: > > 2018-08-28 11:54:10,789 INFO > org.apache.flink.runtime.jobmanager.ZooKeeperSubmittedJobGraphStore - > Recovered SubmittedJobGraph(9e0a109b57511930c95d3b54574a66e3, null). > > Note that this log appears on the standby jobmanager immediately when a > new job is submitted to the active jobmanager. > Also note that the blobs and checkpoints are cleared fine. The problem is > only for jobgraphs both in ZooKeeper and HDFS. > > Trying to access the UI of the standby manager redirects to the active > one, so it is not a problem of them not knowing who the leader is. Do you > have any ideas? > > Thanks a lot, > Encho > > On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 10:27 AM Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org> > wrote: > >> Hi Encho, >> >> thanks a lot for reporting this issue. The problem arises whenever the >> old leader maintains the connection to ZooKeeper. If this is the case, then >> ephemeral nodes which we create to protect against faulty delete operations >> are not removed and consequently the new leader is not able to delete the >> persisted job graph. So one thing to check is whether the old JM still has >> an open connection to ZooKeeper. The next thing to check is the session >> timeout of your ZooKeeper cluster. If you stop the job within the session >> timeout, then it is also not guaranteed that ZooKeeper has detected that >> the ephemeral nodes of the old JM must be deleted. In order to understand >> this better it would be helpful if you could tell us the timing of the >> different actions. >> >> Cheers, >> Till >> >> On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 8:17 AM vino yang <yanghua1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Encho, >>> >>> A temporary solution can be used to determine if it has been cleaned up >>> by monitoring the specific JobID under Zookeeper's "/jobgraph". >>> Another solution, modify the source code, rudely modify the cleanup mode >>> to the synchronous form, but the flink operation Zookeeper's path needs to >>> obtain the corresponding lock, so it is dangerous to do so, and it is not >>> recommended. >>> I think maybe this problem can be solved in the next version. It depends >>> on Till. >>> >>> Thanks, vino. >>> >>> Encho Mishinev <encho.mishi...@gmail.com> 于2018年8月28日周二 下午1:17写道: >>> >>>> Thank you very much for the info! Will keep track of the progress. >>>> >>>> In the meantime is there any viable workaround? It seems like HA >>>> doesn't really work due to this bug. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 4:52 AM vino yang <yanghua1...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> About some implementation mechanisms. >>>>> Flink uses Zookeeper to store JobGraph (Job's description information >>>>> and metadata) as a basis for Job recovery. >>>>> However, previous implementations may cause this information to not be >>>>> properly cleaned up because it is asynchronously deleted by a background >>>>> thread. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, vino. >>>>> >>>>> vino yang <yanghua1...@gmail.com> 于2018年8月28日周二 上午9:49写道: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Encho, >>>>>> >>>>>> This is a problem already known to the Flink community, you can track >>>>>> its progress through FLINK-10011[1], and currently Till is fixing this >>>>>> issue. >>>>>> >>>>>> [1]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-10011 >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, vino. >>>>>> >>>>>> Encho Mishinev <encho.mishi...@gmail.com> 于2018年8月27日周一 下午10:13写道: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I am running Flink 1.5.3 with two job managers and two task managers >>>>>>> in Kubernetes along with HDFS and Zookeeper in high-availability mode. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My problem occurs after the following actions: >>>>>>> - Upload a .jar file to jobmanager-1 >>>>>>> - Run a streaming job from the jar on jobmanager-1 >>>>>>> - Wait for 1 or 2 checkpoints to succeed >>>>>>> - Kill pod of jobmanager-1 >>>>>>> After a short delay, jobmanager-2 takes leadership and correctly >>>>>>> restores the job and continues it >>>>>>> - Stop job from jobmanager-2 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> At this point all seems well, but the problem is that jobmanager-2 >>>>>>> does not clean up anything that was left from jobmanager-1. This means >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> both in HDFS and in Zookeeper remain job graphs, which later on obstruct >>>>>>> any work of both managers as after any reset they unsuccessfully try to >>>>>>> restore a non-existent job and fail over and over again. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am quite certain that jobmanager-2 does not know about any of >>>>>>> jobmanager-1’s files since the Zookeeper logs reveal that it tries to >>>>>>> duplicate job folders: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2018-08-27 13:11:00,038 [myid:] - INFO [ProcessThread(sid:0 >>>>>>> cport:2181)::PrepRequestProcessor@648] - Got user-level >>>>>>> KeeperException when processing sessionid:0x1657aa15e480033 type:create >>>>>>> cxid:0x46 zxid:0x1ab txntype:-1 reqpath:n/a Error >>>>>>> Path:/flink/default/jobgraphs/83bfa359ca59ce1d4635e18e16651e15/bbb259fd-7826-4950-bc7c-c2be23346c77 >>>>>>> Error:KeeperErrorCode = NodeExists for >>>>>>> /flink/default/jobgraphs/83bfa359ca59ce1d4635e18e16651e15/bbb259fd-7826-4950-bc7c-c2be23346c77 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2018-08-27 13:11:02,296 [myid:] - INFO [ProcessThread(sid:0 >>>>>>> cport:2181)::PrepRequestProcessor@648] - Got user-level >>>>>>> KeeperException when processing sessionid:0x1657aa15e480033 type:create >>>>>>> cxid:0x5c zxid:0x1ac txntype:-1 reqpath:n/a Error >>>>>>> Path:/flink/default/checkpoint-counter/83bfa359ca59ce1d4635e18e16651e15 >>>>>>> Error:KeeperErrorCode = NodeExists for >>>>>>> /flink/default/checkpoint-counter/83bfa359ca59ce1d4635e18e16651e15 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also jobmanager-2 attempts to delete the jobgraphs folder in >>>>>>> Zookeeper when the job is stopped, but fails since there are leftover >>>>>>> files >>>>>>> in it from jobmanager-1: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2018-08-27 13:12:13,406 [myid:] - INFO [ProcessThread(sid:0 >>>>>>> cport:2181)::PrepRequestProcessor@648] - Got user-level >>>>>>> KeeperException when processing sessionid:0x1657aa15e480033 type:delete >>>>>>> cxid:0xa8 zxid:0x1bd txntype:-1 reqpath:n/a Error >>>>>>> Path:/flink/default/jobgraphs/83bfa359ca59ce1d4635e18e16651e15 >>>>>>> Error:KeeperErrorCode = Directory not empty for >>>>>>> /flink/default/jobgraphs/83bfa359ca59ce1d4635e18e16651e15 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I’ve noticed that when restoring the job, it seems like jobmanager-2 >>>>>>> does not get anything more than jobID, while it perhaps needs some >>>>>>> metadata? Here is the log that seems suspicious to me: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2018-08-27 13:09:18,113 INFO >>>>>>> org.apache.flink.runtime.jobmanager.ZooKeeperSubmittedJobGraphStore - >>>>>>> Recovered SubmittedJobGraph(83bfa359ca59ce1d4635e18e16651e15, null). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All other logs seem fine in jobmanager-2, it doesn’t seem to be >>>>>>> aware that it’s overwriting anything or not deleting properly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My question is - what is the intended way for the job managers to >>>>>>> correctly exchange metadata in HA mode and why is it not working for me? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks in advance! >>>>>> >>>>>>