Hi Till,
Thanks for the reply.

I don’t use batch, so I assume  what I am seeing is streaming related. I 
thought rocksdb writes to a different dir though ( as defined by  
checkpoint.data.uri)?
Regards,
Anand

From: Till Rohrmann [mailto:trohrm...@apache.org]
Sent: 08 October 2018 13:39
To: Kostas Kloudas
Cc: Gopinath, Anand; user; Till Rohrmann
Subject: Re: flink memory management / temp-io dir question

Hi Anand,

spilling using the io directories is only relevant for Flink's batch 
processing. This happens, for example if you enable blocking data exchange 
where the produced data cannot be kept in memory. Moreover, it is used by many 
of Flink's out-of-core data structures to enable exactly this feature (e.g. 
users are the MutableHashTable, the MergeIterator to combine sorted ata which 
has been spilled or the SorterMerger to actually spill data).

In streaming Flink uses the RocksDB state backend to spill very large state 
gracefully to disk. Thus, you would need to configure RocksDB in order to 
control the spilling behaviour.

Cheers,
Till

On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 2:18 PM Kostas Kloudas 
<k.klou...@data-artisans.com<mailto:k.klou...@data-artisans.com>> wrote:
Sorry, I forgot to cc’ Till.


On Oct 8, 2018, at 2:17 PM, Kostas Kloudas 
<k.klou...@data-artisans.com<mailto:k.klou...@data-artisans.com>> wrote:

Hi Anand,

I think that Till is the best person to answer your question.

Cheers,
Kostas


On Oct 5, 2018, at 3:44 PM, 
anand.gopin...@ubs.com<mailto:anand.gopin...@ubs.com> wrote:

Hi ,
I had a question with respect flink memory management / overspill to /tmp.

In the docs 
(https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-release-1.6/ops/config.html#configuring-temporary-io-directories)
 it says: Although Flink aims to process as much data in main memory as 
possible, it is not uncommon that more data needs to be processed than memory 
is available. Flink’s runtime is designed to write temporary data to disk to 
handle these situations....

In a  flink job  that processes a couple streams of 1M events in a  windowed co 
group function with parallelism 8 - we see 8 dirs created in /tmp with 100s of 
Meg of data, the name of each dir seems aligned to the data for each parallel 
thread windowing against the co-group  operator

e.g.
bash-4.2$ du -sh *
0       flink-dist-cache-a4a69215-665a-4c3c-8d90-416cbe192f26
352M    flink-io-9033517c-ac92-4baa-9e59-79bc80c72a9e
4.0K    localState
7.2M    rocksdb-lib-03d9460b15e6bf6af4f3d9b0ff7980c3

bash-4.2$ du -sh flink-io-9033517c-ac92-4baa-9e59-79bc80c72a9e/*
...
36M     
flink-io-9033517c-ac92-4baa-9e59-79bc80c72a9e/job_cf2dca7843dd6b6296aa1a9d15a1d435_op_WindowOperator_014556c228cb5344d41861769d2bbbc1__1_8__uuid_93307150-4f62-4b06-a71e-0230360f7d86
36M     
flink-io-9033517c-ac92-4baa-9e59-79bc80c72a9e/job_cf2dca7843dd6b6296aa1a9d15a1d435_op_WindowOperator_014556c228cb5344d41861769d2bbbc1__2_8__uuid_7b2f8957-7044-4bb3-869e-28843bd737a1
36M     
flink-io-9033517c-ac92-4baa-9e59-79bc80c72a9e/job_cf2dca7843dd6b6296aa1a9d15a1d435_op_WindowOperator_014556c228cb5344d41861769d2bbbc1__3_8__uuid_54306a44-7e06-45ae-ba0e-4649887bca7e
...

I was wondering can / should this 'over spill' be avoided by increasing the 
heap of the task manager or another config or should I not worry about it?
Is there more information/docs on how this data is used/ cleaned up & what is 
the cost of this overspill to latency/ checkpointing? Any impact I should be 
aware of?

thanks
Anand

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