cc user ML in case anyone want to chime in

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 00:44 Bowen Li <bowenl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I want to propose to have a couple separate Flink distributions with Hive
> dependencies on specific Hive versions (2.3.4 and 1.2.1). The distributions
> will be provided to users on Flink download page [1].
>
> A few reasons to do this:
>
> 1) Flink-Hive integration is important to many many Flink and Hive users
> in two dimensions:
>      a) for Flink metadata: HiveCatalog is the only persistent catalog to
> manage Flink tables. With Flink 1.10 supporting more DDL, the persistent
> catalog would be playing even more critical role in users' workflow
>      b) for Flink data: Hive data connector (source/sink) helps both Flink
> and Hive users to unlock new use cases in streaming, near-realtime/realtime
> data warehouse, backfill, etc.
>
> 2) currently users have to go thru a *really* tedious process to get
> started, because it requires lots of extra jars (see [2]) that are absent
> in Flink's lean distribution. We've had so many users from public mailing
> list, private email, DingTalk groups who got frustrated on spending lots of
> time figuring out the jars themselves. They would rather have a more "right
> out of box" quickstart experience, and play with the catalog and
> source/sink without hassle.
>
> 3) it's easier for users to replace those Hive dependencies for their own
> Hive versions - just replace those jars with the right versions and no need
> to find the doc.
>
> * Hive 2.3.4 and 1.2.1 are two versions that represent lots of user base
> out there, and that's why we are using them as examples for dependencies in
> [1] even though we've supported almost all Hive versions [3] now.
>
> I want to hear what the community think about this, and how to achieve it
> if we believe that's the way to go.
>
> Cheers,
> Bowen
>
> [1] https://flink.apache.org/downloads.html
> [2]
> https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-master/dev/table/hive/#dependencies
> [3]
> https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-master/dev/table/hive/#supported-hive-versions
>

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