Is this savepoint recovery issue also true with the Flink Table API?  I'd
assume so.  Just doublechecking.

On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 1:58 AM Timo Walther <twal...@apache.org> wrote:

> I would check the past Flink Forward conference talks and blog posts. A
> couple of companies have developed connectors or modified existing
> connectors to make this work. Usually, based on event timestamps or some
> external control stream (DataStream API around the actual SQL pipeline
> for handling this).
>
> Also there is FLIP-150 which goes into this direction.
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-150%3A+Introduce+Hybrid+Source
>
> Regards,
> Timo
>
>
> On 18.01.21 10:40, Dan Hill wrote:
> > Thanks Timo!
> >
> > The reason makes sense.
> >
> > Do any of the techniques make it easy to support exactly once?
> >
> > I'm inferring what is meant by dry out.  Are there any documented
> > patterns for it?  E.g. sending data to new kafka topics between releases?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 18, 2021, 01:04 Timo Walther <twal...@apache.org
> > <mailto:twal...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi Dan,
> >
> >     currently, we cannot provide any savepoint guarantees between
> releases.
> >     Because of the nature of SQL that abstracts away runtime operators,
> it
> >     might be that a future execution plan will look completely different
> >     and
> >     thus we cannot map state anymore. This is not avoidable because the
> >     optimizer might get smarter when adding new optimizer rules.
> >
> >     For such cases, we recommend to dry out the old pipeline and/or warm
> up
> >     a new pipeline with historic data when upgrading Flink. A change in
> >     columns sometimes works but even this depends on the used operators.
> >
> >     Regards,
> >     Timo
> >
> >
> >     On 18.01.21 04:46, Dan Hill wrote:
> >      > How well does Flink SQL work with checkpoints and savepoints?  I
> >     tried
> >      > to find documentation for it in v1.11 but couldn't find it.
> >      >
> >      > E.g. what happens if the Flink SQL is modified between releases?
> >     New
> >      > columns?  Change columns?  Adding joins?
> >      >
> >      >
> >
>
>

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