Hi Gaurav,

I think the name "Native Kubernetes" is a bit misleading – this just means
that you can use the Flink CLI/ scripts to run Flink applications on
Kubernetes without using the Kubernetes APIs/ kubectl directly. What
features are you looking to use in the native mode?

I think it would be difficult to use this directly inside an operator, but
keeping "feature parity" with it is a good goal for your CRDs. Since CRDs
are essentially just a new API, the design approach should be user/
feature-first. By feature parity, I mean taking currently supported "Native
Kubernetes" functionality as the feature list for your CRDs, for example:
* Allowing Secrets to be mounted as files and environment variables [1]
* Allowing templating of the JobManager and TaskManager Pods (containers,
etc.) [2]
* Easy use of built-in plugins [3]
* etc.

Other "Native Kubernetes" "features", like RBAC and logs, will come "out of
the box" by defining Custom Resources.

Yang's resources are a great place to start, though I'd suggest defining
your API spec within the CRD explicitly[4], which will be clearer for your
users and will allow for schema validation by other tools.

Best,
Austin


[1]:
https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-release-1.13/docs/deployment/resource-providers/native_kubernetes/#using-secrets
[2]:
https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-release-1.13/docs/deployment/resource-providers/native_kubernetes/#pod-template
[3]:
https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-release-1.13/docs/deployment/resource-providers/native_kubernetes/#using-plugins
[4]:
https://kubernetes.io/docs/tasks/extend-kubernetes/custom-resources/custom-resource-definitions/#specifying-a-structural-schema

On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 2:13 AM Yang Wang <danrtsey...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think the compatibility depends on you. For example, you could have the
> same
> CustomResourceDefinition for standalone and native Flink applications.
> They could
> look like this[1].
>
> Since the CR is defined in yaml[2], native and standalone could have some
> dedicated fields.
> And you could easily parse them in your K8s operator.
>
> [1].
> https://github.com/wangyang0918/flink-native-k8s-operator/blob/master/deploy/crd.yaml
> [2].
> https://github.com/wangyang0918/flink-native-k8s-operator/blob/master/deploy/cr.yaml
>
>
> Best,
> Yang
>
> gaurav kulkarni <kulkarnigaur...@yahoo.com> 于2021年4月20日周二 上午8:57写道:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I plan to create a flink K8s operator which supports standalone mode, and
>> and switch to native mode sometime later. I was wondering what are some of
>> the approaches to ensure that CRD is compatible with both native and
>> standalone mode?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>

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