Oh my bad, it must be Statefun then. I remember I needed to play around
with that for _some_ build.

On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 7:48 PM Chesnay Schepler <ches...@apache.org> wrote:

> Flink can be built with Java 11 since 1.10. If I recall correctly we
> solved the tools.jar issue, which Hadoop depends on, by excluding that
> dependency. As far as we could tell it's not actually required.
>
> On 01/12/2021 19:56, Nicolás Ferrario wrote:
>
> Hi all, this would be awesome, I'm so tired of seeing Java 8 everywhere
> (reminds me of Python 2.7).
>
> We're currently building our code against Java 11 because that's the
> latest version of Java available as a Flink Docker image, but it'd be great
> to use newer versions. I think it would also help to clean up dependencies
> and hopefully no longer have incompatibility issues.
> For example, right now it's not possible to build Flink with Java 9+
> because of a Maven dependency. Using JDK 8 or copying "tools.jar" to any
> newer JDK version fixes it (see more:
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/53707666/how-to-get-tools-jar-for-openjdk-11-on-windows
> ).
>
> Official support for Java 17 would be great.
>
> Greetings!
>
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 7:51 AM Chesnay Schepler <ches...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Gavin,
>>
>> If you run into any issues with Java 17, please report them in
>> FLINK-15736 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-15736>.
>> I recently did some experiments with Java 17 myself; I would think that
>> you will run into some blockers (like ASM requiring an upgrade
>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-24978>, or missing
>> --add-opens/--add-exports
>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-25002>).
>>
>> On 01/12/2021 11:12, Gavin Lee wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for sharing this info with us Chesnay.
>> We've been using Flink for 5 years,  and upgraded to 1.13.2 months ago.
>> The java version is still 8.
>> Currently we're testing with java 17 in our staging environment. There
>> are no special concerns.
>> Will update when tests complete.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 1:18 AM Chesnay Schepler <ches...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> we recently had a discussion on the dev mailing list for deprecating
>>> support for Java 8 in 1.15, with a general consensus in favor of it.
>>>
>>> I now wanted to check in with you, our users, to see what you have got
>>> to say about that.
>>>
>>> Why are we interested in deprecating Java 8 support now (and in
>>> eventually removing it)?
>>>
>>> The main reason is that supporting the recently released Java 17 (and
>>> subsequent versions), while maintaining Java 8 support,
>>> will be more complicated than if Java 11 were the oldest release
>>> version. Essentially because Java 11/17 have both crossed the Java 9 chasm.
>>>
>>> We will still have to bite this bullet in any case (because Java 17 is
>>> out *now *but we are *not *dropping Java 8 *now*), but we would still
>>> like to signal that users should upgrade to Java 11 so that we can
>>> *eventually* clean this up.
>>>
>>> Furthermore, it is currently hard to justify investing time into
>>> benchmarks/performance improvements that are specific to Java 11+, because
>>> they provide no benefit to Java 8.
>>> What does the deprecation mean exactly?
>>>
>>> It will primarily mean that a warning will be logged when you run Flink
>>> on Java 8.
>>> We *may* change the default Java version of the Docker images to Java
>>> 11 (the java8 tags will remain),
>>> and we will put a larger emphasis on Flink's performance on Java 11.
>>> Does that mean that Java 8 support will be removed in 1.16/1.17?
>>>
>>> No. We are not putting a hard-date on the removal of Java 8 support at
>>> this time.
>>> Will this mean that at some point we'll surprise you with the removal of
>>> Java 8 support in the next release?
>>>
>>> No. We will announce the removal ahead of time by *at least* half a
>>> year / 2+ releases (probably closer to a full year).
>>> Is the deprecation already decided?
>>>
>>> No. The responses in this thread are integral for deciding whether a
>>> deprecation at this time makes sense.
>>>
>>>
>>> If you are still using Java 8 at the moment, then we would appreciate if
>>> you could tell us whether you already have a time-frame for
>>> when you intend to upgrade to Java 11. We'd also be interested in
>>> anything that blocks your migration to Java 11.
>>>
>>>
>>> Please raise concerns you have, and feel free to ask questions.
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Gavin
>>
>>
>>
>

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